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And Israeli settlers have no qualms with using FB to incite violence (including deaths) just the same. This is a tug of war between cultures, all sides are cul

by ihsw 10y ago

And Israeli settlers have no qualms with using FB to incite violence (including deaths) just the same. This is a tug of war between cultures, all sides are culpable.

reitanqild 10y ago
Sources, please?
- ihsw 10y ago
  Here: https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=709632 https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=709632 Cited directly from the submission that you clearly did not read. Soldiers themselves are posting online calling for the death of Palestinians. This is very far from the case of uneducated Muslims being whipped into a frenzy, and I say that as someone that adamantly views the Israel-Arab schism as a fight between civilized men and savages. I'm about as pro-Israel as you can get but the conduct of Israelis can get just as disgusting as their Arab detractors.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    Thanks! I'm all for facts and I clearly missed this.
    - ihsw 10y ago
      Read the article, it's all about how Israel is going above and beyond its data-sharing partnership with Facebook to unfairly impose censorship rules for behavior that they themselves are guilty of. Hypocrisy at its finest. There are more links to sources in the article.
      - reitanqild 10y ago
        Feel free to read my sources currently at the bottom of this page where Facebook had to admit that their moderation was clearly biaded against Israel as late as in January this year.
  - selimthegrim 10y ago
    Did your parents play you too many Leon Uris audiobooks in the crib?
    - ihsw 10y ago
      No I'm just extremely jaded by seeing uneducated masses get manipulated by awful people. Being targeted by Israeli extremists for holding them to high standards and expectations is pretty unpleasant, and being targeted by Arab extremists for accepting the existence of the Israeli state is also unpleasant. I sympathize with both Israeli and Palestinian people, I accept the existence of the Israeli state, and I recognize the need for Palestinians to have political representation. Call me what you want but please don't jump to conclusions or make any hasty decisions.
      - reitanqild 10y ago
        Thanks. Seems we agree on a lot. I very much appreciate your position about sympathising with both parts as well as the fact that you bring sources to the table. I might also be a bit biased as around here (both locally and on hn it seems) there is or has been a quite strong anti-Israel bias although at least were I live that seems to have been changing over the last year.
        selimthegrim 10y ago
        Look, I too accept Israel's legitimacy but it's hard to take for example people complaining about NPR as being biased against Israel when (as someone on HN put it) every Palestinian they seem to interview is always conceding they see the reason why Israel is doing <thing they're being interviewed about>. Does that sound like an interview of representative Palestinians to you? If it was, would the conflict be an issue?
      - relics443 10y ago
        Are you saying Palestinians don't have political representation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Kn...
- ddeck 10y ago
  How about the actual article? "While the focus here is on Palestinians’ “incitement,” it’s actually very common for Israelis to use Facebook to urge violence against Palestinians, including settlers urging “vengeance” when there is an attack on an Israeli. " "In 2014, thousands of Israelis used Facebook to post messages 'calling for the murder of Palestinians.'" Sources are linked in the article.

by ihsw 10y ago

And Israeli settlers have no qualms with using FB to incite violence (including deaths) just the same. This is a tug of war between cultures, all sides are culpable.

reitanqild 10y ago

Sources, please?

ihsw 10y ago
Here: https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=709632 https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=709632 Cited directly from the submission that you clearly did not read. Soldiers themselves are posting online calling for the death of Palestinians. This is very far from the case of uneducated Muslims being whipped into a frenzy, and I say that as someone that adamantly views the Israel-Arab schism as a fight between civilized men and savages. I'm about as pro-Israel as you can get but the conduct of Israelis can get just as disgusting as their Arab detractors.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  Thanks! I'm all for facts and I clearly missed this.
  - ihsw 10y ago
    Read the article, it's all about how Israel is going above and beyond its data-sharing partnership with Facebook to unfairly impose censorship rules for behavior that they themselves are guilty of. Hypocrisy at its finest. There are more links to sources in the article.
    - reitanqild 10y ago
      Feel free to read my sources currently at the bottom of this page where Facebook had to admit that their moderation was clearly biaded against Israel as late as in January this year.
- selimthegrim 10y ago
  Did your parents play you too many Leon Uris audiobooks in the crib?
  - ihsw 10y ago
    No I'm just extremely jaded by seeing uneducated masses get manipulated by awful people. Being targeted by Israeli extremists for holding them to high standards and expectations is pretty unpleasant, and being targeted by Arab extremists for accepting the existence of the Israeli state is also unpleasant. I sympathize with both Israeli and Palestinian people, I accept the existence of the Israeli state, and I recognize the need for Palestinians to have political representation. Call me what you want but please don't jump to conclusions or make any hasty decisions.
    - reitanqild 10y ago
      Thanks. Seems we agree on a lot. I very much appreciate your position about sympathising with both parts as well as the fact that you bring sources to the table. I might also be a bit biased as around here (both locally and on hn it seems) there is or has been a quite strong anti-Israel bias although at least were I live that seems to have been changing over the last year.
      - selimthegrim 10y ago
        Look, I too accept Israel's legitimacy but it's hard to take for example people complaining about NPR as being biased against Israel when (as someone on HN put it) every Palestinian they seem to interview is always conceding they see the reason why Israel is doing <thing they're being interviewed about>. Does that sound like an interview of representative Palestinians to you? If it was, would the conflict be an issue?
    - relics443 10y ago
      Are you saying Palestinians don't have political representation? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Kn...
ddeck 10y ago
How about the actual article? "While the focus here is on Palestinians’ “incitement,” it’s actually very common for Israelis to use Facebook to urge violence against Palestinians, including settlers urging “vengeance” when there is an attack on an Israeli. " "In 2014, thousands of Israelis used Facebook to post messages 'calling for the murder of Palestinians.'" Sources are linked in the article.