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I was thinking the same thing. Many big open source projects are "entrusted" to Apache after their funding/support is cut off. Why is Apache taking these up /

by sspiff 10y ago

I was thinking the same thing. Many big open source projects are "entrusted" to Apache after their funding/support is cut off. Why is Apache taking these up / wasting time on them? So far all of them have died shortly after, with no significant improvements landing once Apache has taken over.

ricksplat 10y ago
> Why is Apache taking these up / wasting time on them? Presumably they get some funding in return. It makes $$$ sense for those entrusting if they have an established user base they no longer want to support.
- jimjag 10y ago
  The discussions and rationale for accepting any and all projects is done on-list, on the public Incubator threads. There are no "side deals" or "arrangements" other that was is opening and publicly discussed. In any case, any sort of quid-pro-quo about funding is NOT part of the equation.
  - ricksplat 10y ago
    I didn't mean there were "side deals" I just presumed that funding for Apache came from somewhere and this is surely somewhat from the organisations that donate technology. To say it's NOT part of the equation is naive at best, disingenuous at worst. Money is ALWAYS part of the equation.
    - ricksplat 10y ago
      http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html
toopok4k3 10y ago
Because the software still works and can be used by someone. Sure they might not be maintained and bug fixes wont happen. If the software does something that has no free alternative, the Apache one can still be used by someone for something to fill a need somewhere. Yeah I know this is an absurd concept (to some) that someone might use older than a few year old tech. Being an Apache project means(to me at least) that the product is ready to use and someone has used it before with at least some success. I trust a random open source product much less than anything Apache.
vorg 10y ago
> Many big open source projects are "entrusted" to Apache after their funding/support is cut off Although "entrusted" to Apache, they're still controlled by the same people who change their titles from XXXX Project Manager at BigCorp to Apache PMS Chair for XXXX. These people are often the reason the project funding is cut off, and they'd rather keep control of a shrinking ecosystem than give up some control so the project can be saved, where they'd have a smaller share of a larger ecosystem.

by sspiff 10y ago

ricksplat 10y ago

> Why is Apache taking these up / wasting time on them? Presumably they get some funding in return. It makes $$$ sense for those entrusting if they have an established user base they no longer want to support.

jimjag 10y ago
The discussions and rationale for accepting any and all projects is done on-list, on the public Incubator threads. There are no "side deals" or "arrangements" other that was is opening and publicly discussed. In any case, any sort of quid-pro-quo about funding is NOT part of the equation.
- ricksplat 10y ago
  I didn't mean there were "side deals" I just presumed that funding for Apache came from somewhere and this is surely somewhat from the organisations that donate technology. To say it's NOT part of the equation is naive at best, disingenuous at worst. Money is ALWAYS part of the equation.
  - ricksplat 10y ago
    http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html

toopok4k3 10y ago

Because the software still works and can be used by someone. Sure they might not be maintained and bug fixes wont happen. If the software does something that has no free alternative, the Apache one can still be used by someone for something to fill a need somewhere. Yeah I know this is an absurd concept (to some) that someone might use older than a few year old tech. Being an Apache project means(to me at least) that the product is ready to use and someone has used it before with at least some success. I trust a random open source product much less than anything Apache.

vorg 10y ago

> Many big open source projects are "entrusted" to Apache after their funding/support is cut off Although "entrusted" to Apache, they're still controlled by the same people who change their titles from XXXX Project Manager at BigCorp to Apache PMS Chair for XXXX. These people are often the reason the project funding is cut off, and they'd rather keep control of a shrinking ecosystem than give up some control so the project can be saved, where they'd have a smaller share of a larger ecosystem.