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There's actually now a common specification for language services (pioneered by Microsoft for Visual Studio Code), and Red Hat are implementing it for Eclipse:

by sjellis 10y ago

There's actually now a common specification for language services (pioneered by Microsoft for Visual Studio Code), and Red Hat are implementing it for Eclipse: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-codenvy-and-microsoft-collaborate-language-server-protocol https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-coden... I don't whether anyone is working on this for Netbeans, though.

TylerJewell 10y ago
Codenvy has added it into Che - shipping in a few weeks. Red Hat is adding it into Eclipse. And IBM is adding it into Orion. There is collaboration from Microsoft, Mulesoft, Salesforce, Zend, IBM, Red Hat and Typefox around the language services and proposal. The big piece that is missing is a language server registry so that any tool can discover, install and register locally a language service. That will come next.
- chriswarbo 10y ago
  > The big piece that is missing is a language server registry so that any tool can discover, install and register locally a language service. That will come next. According to the link: > Language server registry: Language servers are published as part of a global registry, built by Codenvy as an Eclipse project and hosted by the Eclipse Foundation, to make language servers discoverable for any tool to consume. Sounds pretty cool. It's certainly a sad state of affairs when we look at existing projects like http://editorconfig.org http://editorconfig.org and see that it only really covers indentation; we programmers should be those most able to configure and improve our own tools! I really think there's a lot of low-hanging fruit for improving the programming workflow, and I think it begins by decoupling basic functionality like this from the monolithic IDEs they've traditionally inhabited.
  - john-waterwood 10y ago
    We're able but we don't do it, since there's a 9 to 5 job with a manager that always screams we work to slowly, and then after work we have to pick up kids, do the dishes and what have you.
tmd83 10y ago
Didn't Steve Yegge talked about something like this a couple of years ago [0]. This is sort of a version of that. A fantastic thing if this really gets going. Surprised that this is the firsts I'm hearing of this. [0] https://plus.google.com/u/0/110981030061712822816/posts/KaSKeg4vQtz https://plus.google.com/u/0/110981030061712822816/posts/KaSK...

by sjellis 10y ago

TylerJewell 10y ago

Codenvy has added it into Che - shipping in a few weeks. Red Hat is adding it into Eclipse. And IBM is adding it into Orion. There is collaboration from Microsoft, Mulesoft, Salesforce, Zend, IBM, Red Hat and Typefox around the language services and proposal. The big piece that is missing is a language server registry so that any tool can discover, install and register locally a language service. That will come next.

chriswarbo 10y ago
> The big piece that is missing is a language server registry so that any tool can discover, install and register locally a language service. That will come next. According to the link: > Language server registry: Language servers are published as part of a global registry, built by Codenvy as an Eclipse project and hosted by the Eclipse Foundation, to make language servers discoverable for any tool to consume. Sounds pretty cool. It's certainly a sad state of affairs when we look at existing projects like http://editorconfig.org http://editorconfig.org and see that it only really covers indentation; we programmers should be those most able to configure and improve our own tools! I really think there's a lot of low-hanging fruit for improving the programming workflow, and I think it begins by decoupling basic functionality like this from the monolithic IDEs they've traditionally inhabited.
- john-waterwood 10y ago
  We're able but we don't do it, since there's a 9 to 5 job with a manager that always screams we work to slowly, and then after work we have to pick up kids, do the dishes and what have you.

tmd83 10y ago

Didn't Steve Yegge talked about something like this a couple of years ago [0]. This is sort of a version of that. A fantastic thing if this really gets going. Surprised that this is the firsts I'm hearing of this. [0] https://plus.google.com/u/0/110981030061712822816/posts/KaSKeg4vQtz https://plus.google.com/u/0/110981030061712822816/posts/KaSK...