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I think there's also an issue of easy diagnostic. It's extremely hard for non-tech people to assess the quality of the network; they basically have to rely on "

I think there's also an issue of easy diagnostic. It's extremely hard for non-tech people to assess the quality of the network; they basically have to rely on "time to open google" which is obviously a complicated metric to rely upon, and can be measured only with a manual test. Wifi has a single quality indicator, the "signal power" which is useful but doesn't say it all (it doesn't even take SNR into account). Somebody should come up with a monitoring algorithm, possibly mixing radio stats and stability of pings, that converts into a simple indicator on the UX of all operating systems. Something like green/yellow/red. Once people know their connection is "always red with MacBooks", they will fix it; hotel managers can ask for support from suppliers, airbnbs can go to the mall where they bought the router and complain. This would be up to the Wifi Alliance to fix, but they are the worst slow-moving committee ever seen on this planet, so I'm not holding my breath. They're probably implementing a new useless encryption algorithm that will be broken in 5 minutes and stay broken for another 5 years till they agree on something else.

jstanley 10y ago
If you do this, please make it a continuous scale rather than green/yellow/red. There's a big difference between "the worst that connection can get you a green" and "a really good connection".
- Senji 10y ago
  I suggest we express it in dBs. :^)
  - tomchuk 10y ago
    Or an S meter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_meter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_meter
d33 10y ago
This begs a question: could Wifi Alliance be replaced on this one? Assuming open source software (Linux PC + OpenWRT router), could this be implemented manually? I once contacted Wifi Alliance regarding this one: https://github.com/d33tah/call-for-wpa3 https://github.com/d33tah/call-for-wpa3 This was their response: > Thank you for contacting Wi-Fi Alliance. > > In regards to your question about work on security developments, there is a member task group that is working to advance Wi-Fi security enhancements. You can find all the current work groups on the Wi-Fi Alliance website at http://www.wi-fi.org/who-we-are/current-work-areas. > > In order to participate in discussion and work groups, companies must become a member of Wi-Fi Alliance.
Asooka 10y ago
There's an easier metric. "If your hotspot cost less than 150$, it's probably crappy".

jstanley 10y ago

If you do this, please make it a continuous scale rather than green/yellow/red. There's a big difference between "the worst that connection can get you a green" and "a really good connection".

Senji 10y ago
I suggest we express it in dBs. :^)
- tomchuk 10y ago
  Or an S meter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_meter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_meter

d33 10y ago

This begs a question: could Wifi Alliance be replaced on this one? Assuming open source software (Linux PC + OpenWRT router), could this be implemented manually? I once contacted Wifi Alliance regarding this one: https://github.com/d33tah/call-for-wpa3 https://github.com/d33tah/call-for-wpa3 This was their response: > Thank you for contacting Wi-Fi Alliance. > > In regards to your question about work on security developments, there is a member task group that is working to advance Wi-Fi security enhancements. You can find all the current work groups on the Wi-Fi Alliance website at http://www.wi-fi.org/who-we-are/current-work-areas. > > In order to participate in discussion and work groups, companies must become a member of Wi-Fi Alliance.

Asooka 10y ago

There's an easier metric. "If your hotspot cost less than 150$, it's probably crappy".