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Or get a sane router: https://omnia.turris.cz/ https://omnia.turris.cz/

ggggggggggw 10y ago
The problem with Omnia is that it's a niche product that is very unlikely to ever sell outside of its niche. Also, it's being made by people who haven't made a router before. 99% of the issues you'll ever have with your wifi router are driver issues. Omnia is using OpenWRT for their base, however they'll still have to make the chipset driver work with OpenWRT, and at a reasonable speed. Even if they get the driver working, it's unlikely that the device will be running at speeds comparable to other market competitors. It takes lots of unpleasant driver hacks, custom networking stacks, and prioritization magic to hit the benchmark numbers that Asus, Netgear, and Linksys push out. I'm not saying you should write off the Omnia completely, I just recommend sitting back and waiting for it to be released/benchmarked before purchasing it.
- matt4711 10y ago
  What about AVM products such as a Fritzbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz!Box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz!Box) ? Primarily a german product but also available internationally (e.g. Australia)
  - fifteenforty 10y ago
    The Fritz!box is the only router I recommend to friends. I've run into few problems with them, except persistent issues with the web interface responsiveness. The only real problem is that they are relatively expensive. It's hard to convince people to spend 4x the amount because it's "better". I think most non-geeks don't realise just how bad their routers are making their web experience.
    - MrBuddyCasino 10y ago
      In my experience, the wifi performance of Fritz! boxen sucks. Is this still the case? I ordered a Netgear Nighthawk R7000 and I'm very happy with it.
      - fifteenforty 10y ago
        Well, that depends on your perspective I guess. For most Aussies stuck on ADSL (real world max speed of 20mbps download, on a good day, close to the telephone exchange), their WiFi performance is rarely the rate-limiting factor. I haven't seen a head-to-head comparison.
pmorici 10y ago
Why bet on a risky croud funding campaign when you could just go with a Ubiquity.
- ashitlerferad 10y ago
  cz.nic isn't risky in the slightest. Ubiquiti don't ship with open source firmware.
  - pmorici 10y ago
    It has nothing to do with the firmware it has to do with the fact that they haven't delivered a single working router to a customer yet. You don't seriously believe that buying something through a crowd funding campaign carries zero risk do you?
    - ashitlerferad 10y ago
      In this case yes, funding cz.nic has zero risk. They just sent an email saying the first shipments will start this week.
- bonzini 10y ago
  I bought a Ubiquity a few months ago, and found out that it couldn't communicate over wireless with a Raspberry Pi's USB-WiFi dongle (with drivers in mainline kernel) sitting 3 meters away. Before I bought it, the same dongle was acting just fine as access point for the whole home network of 3-4 phones/tablets and 1-2 computers; it could easily handle browsing, updating Android/iOS apps, and YouTube video streaming. And it still is doing that just fine after I sadly had to return the Ubiquity! Now of course this is just my own anecdote. But it remains a fact that WiFi setup can be incredibly hit-or-miss, and there's no reason in principle why two devices 3 meters away should have occasional 2-3 seconds packet delays.
  - pmorici 10y ago
    Sounds like you just configured your Rpi wrong.
MrBuddyCasino 10y ago
As a product, thats what I would have bought had it been available. Why have a weak router and a weak NAS if I can have a decent combined device with the same power consumption?

The problem with Omnia is that it's a niche product that is very unlikely to ever sell outside of its niche. Also, it's being made by people who haven't made a router before. 99% of the issues you'll ever have with your wifi router are driver issues. Omnia is using OpenWRT for their base, however they'll still have to make the chipset driver work with OpenWRT, and at a reasonable speed. Even if they get the driver working, it's unlikely that the device will be running at speeds comparable to other market competitors. It takes lots of unpleasant driver hacks, custom networking stacks, and prioritization magic to hit the benchmark numbers that Asus, Netgear, and Linksys push out. I'm not saying you should write off the Omnia completely, I just recommend sitting back and waiting for it to be released/benchmarked before purchasing it.

matt4711 10y ago
What about AVM products such as a Fritzbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz!Box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz!Box) ? Primarily a german product but also available internationally (e.g. Australia)
- fifteenforty 10y ago
  The Fritz!box is the only router I recommend to friends. I've run into few problems with them, except persistent issues with the web interface responsiveness. The only real problem is that they are relatively expensive. It's hard to convince people to spend 4x the amount because it's "better". I think most non-geeks don't realise just how bad their routers are making their web experience.
  - MrBuddyCasino 10y ago
    In my experience, the wifi performance of Fritz! boxen sucks. Is this still the case? I ordered a Netgear Nighthawk R7000 and I'm very happy with it.
    - fifteenforty 10y ago
      Well, that depends on your perspective I guess. For most Aussies stuck on ADSL (real world max speed of 20mbps download, on a good day, close to the telephone exchange), their WiFi performance is rarely the rate-limiting factor. I haven't seen a head-to-head comparison.

pmorici 10y ago

Why bet on a risky croud funding campaign when you could just go with a Ubiquity.

ashitlerferad 10y ago
cz.nic isn't risky in the slightest. Ubiquiti don't ship with open source firmware.
- pmorici 10y ago
  It has nothing to do with the firmware it has to do with the fact that they haven't delivered a single working router to a customer yet. You don't seriously believe that buying something through a crowd funding campaign carries zero risk do you?
  - ashitlerferad 10y ago
    In this case yes, funding cz.nic has zero risk. They just sent an email saying the first shipments will start this week.
bonzini 10y ago
I bought a Ubiquity a few months ago, and found out that it couldn't communicate over wireless with a Raspberry Pi's USB-WiFi dongle (with drivers in mainline kernel) sitting 3 meters away. Before I bought it, the same dongle was acting just fine as access point for the whole home network of 3-4 phones/tablets and 1-2 computers; it could easily handle browsing, updating Android/iOS apps, and YouTube video streaming. And it still is doing that just fine after I sadly had to return the Ubiquity! Now of course this is just my own anecdote. But it remains a fact that WiFi setup can be incredibly hit-or-miss, and there's no reason in principle why two devices 3 meters away should have occasional 2-3 seconds packet delays.
- pmorici 10y ago
  Sounds like you just configured your Rpi wrong.

MrBuddyCasino 10y ago

As a product, thats what I would have bought had it been available. Why have a weak router and a weak NAS if I can have a decent combined device with the same power consumption?