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"So another model, proposed in 2015, assumes the impact was extremely violent, so violent that the impactor and Earth’s mantle vaporized and mixed together to f

"So another model, proposed in 2015, assumes the impact was extremely violent, so violent that the impactor and Earth’s mantle vaporized and mixed together to form a dense melt/vapor mantle atmosphere that expanded to fill a space more than 500 times bigger than today’s Earth. As this atmosphere cooled, the Moon condensed from it."

andrewfromx 10y ago
sounds like despicable me plot
T0T0R0 10y ago
I would wonder how long a vapor state would last, before precipitating to liquid, and then freezing into it's final solid form. I bet the time scales for those phase transitions wouldn't be incalculable, even if gross estimates. So, if the moon were a vapor bubble suspended in a vacuum, how long would that last? And how long for the heat to radiate out of it? Sounds like that process would be pretty uniform, and dependent mostly on composition. But the uniformity of the temperature bleed would contribute to the maintenance of a stable orbit.
- gmazza 10y ago
  From fig. 1 on the second page of pdf linked by spenrose below, it looks like vapor cloud was more doughnut/torus-shaped than spherical (due to rotation) and lasted few tens of years.
  - azernik 10y ago
    That is shockingly fast.
    - Retra 10y ago
      Well, that's a comparatively small volume it covered in the grand scheme of things. Just think how quickly a bunch of hair and dust will clump together in the corner of an unswept room.
  - T0T0R0 10y ago
    While the distribution of mass might quickly redistribute itself into a toroidal formation, internally, I think that area of effect (the fuzzy red zone in the diagram) would probably be pretty opaque to visible light. For a period of time, a gas cloud like that would probably have a really interesting appearance. I'm imagining that, as the hot gases cool off, and condense onto floating debris, the molten/solid debris field will probably look pretty nebulous, and then settle into unstable bands. At that point, I figure the torus shape would be very apparent. Once the hot gases were gone, I bet it probably took a while for the rest of the debris to get swept up into decaying orbits, and impact on either body (earth/moon). If they could visualize it with a simulation, it'd probably be fun to watch, and tweak the parameters of the event.
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andrewfromx 10y ago

sounds like despicable me plot

T0T0R0 10y ago

I would wonder how long a vapor state would last, before precipitating to liquid, and then freezing into it's final solid form. I bet the time scales for those phase transitions wouldn't be incalculable, even if gross estimates. So, if the moon were a vapor bubble suspended in a vacuum, how long would that last? And how long for the heat to radiate out of it? Sounds like that process would be pretty uniform, and dependent mostly on composition. But the uniformity of the temperature bleed would contribute to the maintenance of a stable orbit.

gmazza 10y ago
From fig. 1 on the second page of pdf linked by spenrose below, it looks like vapor cloud was more doughnut/torus-shaped than spherical (due to rotation) and lasted few tens of years.
- azernik 10y ago
  That is shockingly fast.
  - Retra 10y ago
    Well, that's a comparatively small volume it covered in the grand scheme of things. Just think how quickly a bunch of hair and dust will clump together in the corner of an unswept room.
- T0T0R0 10y ago
  While the distribution of mass might quickly redistribute itself into a toroidal formation, internally, I think that area of effect (the fuzzy red zone in the diagram) would probably be pretty opaque to visible light. For a period of time, a gas cloud like that would probably have a really interesting appearance. I'm imagining that, as the hot gases cool off, and condense onto floating debris, the molten/solid debris field will probably look pretty nebulous, and then settle into unstable bands. At that point, I figure the torus shape would be very apparent. Once the hot gases were gone, I bet it probably took a while for the rest of the debris to get swept up into decaying orbits, and impact on either body (earth/moon). If they could visualize it with a simulation, it'd probably be fun to watch, and tweak the parameters of the event.

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