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Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) the average parent does not expose their children to violence or viole

Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) the average parent does not expose their children to violence or violent imagery especially not in middle school. Where the hell do you live where that's the case?

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) The level of violence in PG-13 rated films has increased drastically since the rating was introduced, so, its quite likely that this has changed drastically since you were a kid if it was "a very long time ago".
omginternets 10y ago
Gaaah we're tripping up the anti-flame filters, so I apologize for the slow response. I think I understand what you're objecting to, so let me try to tackle this from a different angle. Consider how pissed your average neighbor would be if I showed Inception to one of their kids. Now imagine how pissed they would be if I showed them Eyes Wide Shut. Do you see it now? Right or wrong, for better or worse, Americans are more enraged by things of sexual nature than violent nature. Ounce for ounce, violence is less shocking than sex and nudity. This is why the principle distinguishing factor between PG-13 and R ratings is sex and nudity, not violence! Yes, obviously conscientious parents try to shield small children from violence, but here's the thing: I moved to France from Delaware and parents here don't give a flying fuck in a handbasket if their children see nudity. Actual sexual intercourse or lewdness is another issue, but newspaper kiosks show topless women in plain view and nobody cares. Statues have penises and nobody cares. I don't think things have drastically changed since your childhood. Rather, I think this is a very difficult thing to see if you've grown up in the midst of it without spending significant time abroad (though maybe you have and we simply disagree?)
serge2k 10y ago
I probably saw die hard and other movies like that in middle school. I remember seeing saving private ryan around that time too. The only movie that ever really bothered me for violence was the passion of the christ.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) The level of violence in PG-13 rated films has increased drastically since the rating was introduced, so, its quite likely that this has changed drastically since you were a kid if it was "a very long time ago".

omginternets 10y ago

Gaaah we're tripping up the anti-flame filters, so I apologize for the slow response. I think I understand what you're objecting to, so let me try to tackle this from a different angle. Consider how pissed your average neighbor would be if I showed Inception to one of their kids. Now imagine how pissed they would be if I showed them Eyes Wide Shut. Do you see it now? Right or wrong, for better or worse, Americans are more enraged by things of sexual nature than violent nature. Ounce for ounce, violence is less shocking than sex and nudity. This is why the principle distinguishing factor between PG-13 and R ratings is sex and nudity, not violence! Yes, obviously conscientious parents try to shield small children from violence, but here's the thing: I moved to France from Delaware and parents here don't give a flying fuck in a handbasket if their children see nudity. Actual sexual intercourse or lewdness is another issue, but newspaper kiosks show topless women in plain view and nobody cares. Statues have penises and nobody cares. I don't think things have drastically changed since your childhood. Rather, I think this is a very difficult thing to see if you've grown up in the midst of it without spending significant time abroad (though maybe you have and we simply disagree?)

serge2k 10y ago

I probably saw die hard and other movies like that in middle school. I remember seeing saving private ryan around that time too. The only movie that ever really bothered me for violence was the passion of the christ.