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No middle school kid is going to get into an R rated movie if they are dropped off and not escorted by and adult at all times.

harryf 10y ago
That's some serious security control you imagine there...
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  Eh? I wasn't let into R rated movies unaccompanied in high school. Most of the time when we snuck in after buying a ticket to another movie we were caught. They'll come around asking for your tickets during the film if they suspect you are underage or didn't pay or whatever.
  - jessaustin 10y ago
    Where did you grow up, Soviet Russia? I wasn't even one of those "mall rat" kids, and most of the time I went to the movies with friends we switched to a different screen.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      Well the suburban malls didn't care for "urban" kids taking the bus to the mall even if they weren't causing trouble. They eventually just flat out banned anyone under 18 from entering the mall without a parent, seriously, the mall cop stands at the entrance and IDs young looking people at the entrance. That was after I turned 18 they started that policy though. When I was about 24 I got IDed at the entrance to the mall and I was so disgusted by it I never wanted to go back (not that I ever want to go to the mall in the first place)
      - jessaustin 10y ago
        Haha I don't think I've ever been an age at which going to a mall was worth getting IDed. Movie theaters in indoor malls suck anyway, like most things about indoor malls. (In USA, anyway, I once went to a mall movie theater in Philippines and it was awesome.) Even so I'd say the mall you're describing was particularly authoritarian. Most malls in USA couldn't afford a guard at every entrance.
        nommm-nommm 10y ago
        Once one mall started every single mall in the area followed the policy. It is not uncommon- I just did some random googling for examples http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/teens-must-be-with-parents-at-night-at-northpark/ http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/teens-must-be-with-parent... http://www.wdrb.com/story/30856303/6-things-you-should-know-about-the-new-policies-at-mall-st-matthews-oxmoor http://www.wdrb.com/story/30856303/6-things-you-should-know-... http://www.panamacity-mall.com/security/ http://www.panamacity-mall.com/security/ http://www.mallatstonecrest.com/pip http://www.mallatstonecrest.com/pip http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-ford-city-youth-escort-0107-biz-20150107-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-ford-city-youth-es... It's not that expensive, I imagine you are only paying the mall cop around minium wage. We didn't have any movie theaters that weren't at the mall.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> No middle school kid is going to get into an R rated movie if they are dropped off and not escorted by and adult. IME, insofar as that is enforced at multiplexes, its enforced mostly at ticket sales and at multiplex entrances, not entrances to individual screening rooms with the complex; tickets are usually not verified at entrances to individual screening rooms except for special circumstances, e.g., opening weekend for major blockbusters -- which only occasionally even overlap with R-rated films. So, its not at all impossible for a middle school kid to get into an R-rated movie without escort by theater hopping.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  I was replying to "We as a society... drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice." The average parent isn't going to fill their mini van with a bunch of 12 year olds and drop them off with the instructions to sneek into a film that they won't be otherwise allowed into. That hypothetical parent would be shamed on the evening news if caught. That's all I'm saying, not that it was impossible to sneek into an R rated film. The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction.
  - omginternets 10y ago
    >The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction. In it's precise form, maybe, but it's certainly not a fiction insofar as we very much tolerate children being exposed to violence. It might not be at the literal movie theater, but that's completely and utterly beside the point. The average parent has no qualms about showing violence to children. That is not a complete and total fiction. With respect, you're quibbling over trivia.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) the average parent does not expose their children to violence or violent imagery especially not in middle school. Where the hell do you live where that's the case?
omginternets 10y ago
What's your point? The fact that adult supervision is required doesn't contradict the claim that American parents are willing to expose their children to violence and not nudity. This literally has nothing to do with anything. Moreover, I was certainly shown R-rated movies in class at a young age. Sure, all the parents had to sign a permission slip, but the fact that they did it just goes to show I'm not making this up. The phrasing might have been hyperbolic, but the point remains valid: we're by and large okay with kids seeing Terminator but not a nipple.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  > What's your point? The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction. Doesn't happen. Hell, if you have a younger looking 12 year old and let them walk to school by themselves expect a busy body to call the cops on you.
  - grkvlt 10y ago
    You spoiled your point with the hyperbole in the last sentence. The reason you know about the one or two instances of cops being called because a ten year old is walking on their own is because it is rare and hence newsworthy. It certainly isn't normal behaviour to call law enforcement about this; a child of seven or eight is quite capable of navigating city streets to walk to school, and has been for a very long time.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      hy·per·bo·le: exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. My example is not in any way exaggerated and it is meant to be taken literary. >The reason you know about the one or two instances of cops being called because a ten year old is walking on their own is because it is rare and hence newsworthy. People have been convicted of crimes for leaving their 8 year olds "unsupervised" because of busy bodies with cell phones. Not charged, convicted! The reason its rare to hear about a case is because its a socially unacceptable for children to be left alone now. [1] Its a rare thing to do so its a rare thing to get in trouble for doing. >a child of seven or eight is quite capable of navigating city streets to walk to school, and has been for a very long time. Absolutely! I sure did when I was a kid! I couldn't imagine being so suffocated by my parents that I wasn't allowed to be away from them to walk to the corner store by myself or ride my bike to the park. My dad sent me to the hardware store on my bike to buy propane, nobody batted an eye. Now if an unaccompanied 10 year old showed up trying to buy propane the parents would be arrested. This is madness, I agree, but the "protect the kids" mantra is terrible, but it is also the reality. [1] http://www.freerangekids.com/eureka-breakthrough-study-explains-why-we-arrest-parents-for-putting-kids-in-nearly-non-existent-danger/ http://www.freerangekids.com/eureka-breakthrough-study-expla...

harryf 10y ago

That's some serious security control you imagine there...

nommm-nommm 10y ago
Eh? I wasn't let into R rated movies unaccompanied in high school. Most of the time when we snuck in after buying a ticket to another movie we were caught. They'll come around asking for your tickets during the film if they suspect you are underage or didn't pay or whatever.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  Where did you grow up, Soviet Russia? I wasn't even one of those "mall rat" kids, and most of the time I went to the movies with friends we switched to a different screen.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    Well the suburban malls didn't care for "urban" kids taking the bus to the mall even if they weren't causing trouble. They eventually just flat out banned anyone under 18 from entering the mall without a parent, seriously, the mall cop stands at the entrance and IDs young looking people at the entrance. That was after I turned 18 they started that policy though. When I was about 24 I got IDed at the entrance to the mall and I was so disgusted by it I never wanted to go back (not that I ever want to go to the mall in the first place)
    - jessaustin 10y ago
      Haha I don't think I've ever been an age at which going to a mall was worth getting IDed. Movie theaters in indoor malls suck anyway, like most things about indoor malls. (In USA, anyway, I once went to a mall movie theater in Philippines and it was awesome.) Even so I'd say the mall you're describing was particularly authoritarian. Most malls in USA couldn't afford a guard at every entrance.
      - nommm-nommm 10y ago
        Once one mall started every single mall in the area followed the policy. It is not uncommon- I just did some random googling for examples http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/teens-must-be-with-parents-at-night-at-northpark/ http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/teens-must-be-with-parent... http://www.wdrb.com/story/30856303/6-things-you-should-know-about-the-new-policies-at-mall-st-matthews-oxmoor http://www.wdrb.com/story/30856303/6-things-you-should-know-... http://www.panamacity-mall.com/security/ http://www.panamacity-mall.com/security/ http://www.mallatstonecrest.com/pip http://www.mallatstonecrest.com/pip http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-ford-city-youth-escort-0107-biz-20150107-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-ford-city-youth-es... It's not that expensive, I imagine you are only paying the mall cop around minium wage. We didn't have any movie theaters that weren't at the mall.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> No middle school kid is going to get into an R rated movie if they are dropped off and not escorted by and adult. IME, insofar as that is enforced at multiplexes, its enforced mostly at ticket sales and at multiplex entrances, not entrances to individual screening rooms with the complex; tickets are usually not verified at entrances to individual screening rooms except for special circumstances, e.g., opening weekend for major blockbusters -- which only occasionally even overlap with R-rated films. So, its not at all impossible for a middle school kid to get into an R-rated movie without escort by theater hopping.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
I was replying to "We as a society... drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice." The average parent isn't going to fill their mini van with a bunch of 12 year olds and drop them off with the instructions to sneek into a film that they won't be otherwise allowed into. That hypothetical parent would be shamed on the evening news if caught. That's all I'm saying, not that it was impossible to sneek into an R rated film. The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction.
- omginternets 10y ago
  >The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction. In it's precise form, maybe, but it's certainly not a fiction insofar as we very much tolerate children being exposed to violence. It might not be at the literal movie theater, but that's completely and utterly beside the point. The average parent has no qualms about showing violence to children. That is not a complete and total fiction. With respect, you're quibbling over trivia.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    Unless its changed drastically since I was a kid (which I admit was a very long time ago) the average parent does not expose their children to violence or violent imagery especially not in middle school. Where the hell do you live where that's the case?

omginternets 10y ago

What's your point? The fact that adult supervision is required doesn't contradict the claim that American parents are willing to expose their children to violence and not nudity. This literally has nothing to do with anything. Moreover, I was certainly shown R-rated movies in class at a young age. Sure, all the parents had to sign a permission slip, but the fact that they did it just goes to show I'm not making this up. The phrasing might have been hyperbolic, but the point remains valid: we're by and large okay with kids seeing Terminator but not a nipple.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
> What's your point? The idea that we "drop our middle-school kids off to see violent movies without even thinking twice" is a complete and total fiction. Doesn't happen. Hell, if you have a younger looking 12 year old and let them walk to school by themselves expect a busy body to call the cops on you.
- grkvlt 10y ago
  You spoiled your point with the hyperbole in the last sentence. The reason you know about the one or two instances of cops being called because a ten year old is walking on their own is because it is rare and hence newsworthy. It certainly isn't normal behaviour to call law enforcement about this; a child of seven or eight is quite capable of navigating city streets to walk to school, and has been for a very long time.
  - nommm-nommm 10y ago
    hy·per·bo·le: exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. My example is not in any way exaggerated and it is meant to be taken literary. >The reason you know about the one or two instances of cops being called because a ten year old is walking on their own is because it is rare and hence newsworthy. People have been convicted of crimes for leaving their 8 year olds "unsupervised" because of busy bodies with cell phones. Not charged, convicted! The reason its rare to hear about a case is because its a socially unacceptable for children to be left alone now. [1] Its a rare thing to do so its a rare thing to get in trouble for doing. >a child of seven or eight is quite capable of navigating city streets to walk to school, and has been for a very long time. Absolutely! I sure did when I was a kid! I couldn't imagine being so suffocated by my parents that I wasn't allowed to be away from them to walk to the corner store by myself or ride my bike to the park. My dad sent me to the hardware store on my bike to buy propane, nobody batted an eye. Now if an unaccompanied 10 year old showed up trying to buy propane the parents would be arrested. This is madness, I agree, but the "protect the kids" mantra is terrible, but it is also the reality. [1] http://www.freerangekids.com/eureka-breakthrough-study-explains-why-we-arrest-parents-for-putting-kids-in-nearly-non-existent-danger/ http://www.freerangekids.com/eureka-breakthrough-study-expla...