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You can try smaller companies. From my experience, they're awesome because they care about teaching you stuff, and also what you do really does make a differenc

You can try smaller companies. From my experience, they're awesome because they care about teaching you stuff, and also what you do really does make a difference for the product you're building. Bigger companies will always be less flexible, and especially banks love rules. The bigger the company, the more process (aka. bullshit) can get in the way.

behnamoh 10y ago
Agreed. For example, Microsoft is now swell, really. I mean, do you think it was really that difficult for them to improve Winphone ASAP? Of course not. But it took them so many years, they failed Windows Mobile, bought Nokia, destroyed Nokia, stopped releasing updates to older phones, and now they're dumping Lumia. After all these years, they still don't have a solid user-friendly OS. I know, people always complain about the lack of apps, but I believe Winphone has a bigger problem: it is not designed with the users' happiness in mind. Microsoft is too big that transforming ideas into products is so slow due to all the bureaucracy. This is not the case with startups. They mostly use scripting languages with fast development time such as ruby. While ruby fits well for prototyping purposes of startups, banks and huge companies use enterprise solutions like Java, which has slower dev time, but instead comes with many rules. It's "business best practice".
- JamesBarney 10y ago
  Had windows phone, loved OS. People complained it was a lack of apps because there was a lack of apps. Also there was lots of crap in the app store and it was hard to differentiate good and bad apps.
- guitarbill 10y ago
  This is all true, but a small company isn't necessarily a start-up. They might have an equally established stack, which can be a blessing in disguise. I made a lot of money before university rewriting VB6 apps into C#, and making the UI better. Some of the most gratifying work I've done, because they gave me pretty much complete freedom.

behnamoh 10y ago

Agreed. For example, Microsoft is now swell, really. I mean, do you think it was really that difficult for them to improve Winphone ASAP? Of course not. But it took them so many years, they failed Windows Mobile, bought Nokia, destroyed Nokia, stopped releasing updates to older phones, and now they're dumping Lumia. After all these years, they still don't have a solid user-friendly OS. I know, people always complain about the lack of apps, but I believe Winphone has a bigger problem: it is not designed with the users' happiness in mind. Microsoft is too big that transforming ideas into products is so slow due to all the bureaucracy. This is not the case with startups. They mostly use scripting languages with fast development time such as ruby. While ruby fits well for prototyping purposes of startups, banks and huge companies use enterprise solutions like Java, which has slower dev time, but instead comes with many rules. It's "business best practice".

JamesBarney 10y ago
Had windows phone, loved OS. People complained it was a lack of apps because there was a lack of apps. Also there was lots of crap in the app store and it was hard to differentiate good and bad apps.
guitarbill 10y ago
This is all true, but a small company isn't necessarily a start-up. They might have an equally established stack, which can be a blessing in disguise. I made a lot of money before university rewriting VB6 apps into C#, and making the UI better. Some of the most gratifying work I've done, because they gave me pretty much complete freedom.