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i didn't understand that, why do you think that observing something is disingenuous ? what is the difference between 'assigning ulterior motives' and 'observing

i didn't understand that, why do you think that observing something is disingenuous ? what is the difference between 'assigning ulterior motives' and 'observing reality' ? I would also think that political persecutions are also very disingenuous, I think that it is one of the most wicket things that any government could possibly do.

rhizome 10y ago
Your observation is a non-sequitur, and the conclusions you draw are not based on facts. The fact we do have is that they said they did a thing for a particular reason. Nobody has "observed" Iranians protesting against their own government in the form of an empathic reaction to 9/11. At the very least, what degree of organization are you imagining would motivate and populate an ironic protest like that, and who exactly is the audience who would see through the irony? "Ah yes, the world thinks we're being nice to the US, but really we're stickin' it to The Man." It's hard enough to get 5 people together for a practical joke that doesn't get spoiled by someone. I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours, but you're really kind of threadshitting by bringing it into the conversation. Lastly, it appears you don't know what "disingenuous" means.
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- MichaelMoser123 10y ago
  >I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours, but you're really kind of threadshitting by bringing it into the conversation. may i point out that you seem to be ignoring the human rights situation in Iran, that is disrespectful of the victims of the current regime - and that is "disingenuous", at least by the dictionary definition of the word. >I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours ... >... appears you don't know what "disingenuous" means. really, that's what i am writing about, day in and day out; very civil discourse of yours. needs improvement.
  - rhizome 10y ago
    may i point out that you seem to be ignoring the human rights situation in Iran I'm not ignoring it, it's simply off-topic.

rhizome 10y ago

Your observation is a non-sequitur, and the conclusions you draw are not based on facts. The fact we do have is that they said they did a thing for a particular reason. Nobody has "observed" Iranians protesting against their own government in the form of an empathic reaction to 9/11. At the very least, what degree of organization are you imagining would motivate and populate an ironic protest like that, and who exactly is the audience who would see through the irony? "Ah yes, the world thinks we're being nice to the US, but really we're stickin' it to The Man." It's hard enough to get 5 people together for a practical joke that doesn't get spoiled by someone. I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours, but you're really kind of threadshitting by bringing it into the conversation. Lastly, it appears you don't know what "disingenuous" means.

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MichaelMoser123 10y ago
>I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours, but you're really kind of threadshitting by bringing it into the conversation. may i point out that you seem to be ignoring the human rights situation in Iran, that is disrespectful of the victims of the current regime - and that is "disingenuous", at least by the dictionary definition of the word. >I'm sorry if "dictatorial Iran" is a personal hobby horse of yours ... >... appears you don't know what "disingenuous" means. really, that's what i am writing about, day in and day out; very civil discourse of yours. needs improvement.
- rhizome 10y ago
  may i point out that you seem to be ignoring the human rights situation in Iran I'm not ignoring it, it's simply off-topic.