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I absolutely would like to record everything but I'm not prepared for all that data to live in the cloud and belong to some untrustworthy tech giant.

personjerry 10y ago
What about a questionably trustworthy tech startup?
- kybernetikos 10y ago
  Theoretically yes. Practically I'd be very surprised if such a tech startup would have terms I would trust. Things I'd be looking at: * data ownership - including in the event the startup is bought * data access revocation - I want to be able to revoke access to my data in a meaningful way * business plan - I want to be the customer not the product for something like this * portability - I don't want to feel that I'm stuck using any one solution for my life. I really don't know if such a service can be made economically viable given such a set of requirements.
  - severine 10y ago
    Take a look Su Sandstorm.
    - mcherm 10y ago
      What is that? I can't (easily) tell what it is that you are trying to suggest looking at.
      - swsieber 10y ago
        I think they mean Sandstorm.io Sandstorm pretty much meets those requirements: * Your data is exportable * They focus on security and have a non-privacy-invading business plan * You can decide exactly who to share data with, and revoke it. It's like a private hosted cloud - you have to pay for it yourself (once it's out of beta), but you could host it yourself, and it's open source. https://sandstorm.io https://sandstorm.io
  - TACIXAT 10y ago
    I built Socialite.ooo, it really needs a mobile app, but it's a site for keeping track of and taking notes on people, events, and locations (correlating them). Business model is paid (haven't implemented that yet) so that there will be no selling of data. I'd love to do something with a fully encrypted system, but the usability / recovery trade offs just didn't seem worth it when designing the site. I work and am pursuing my master's, so I haven't had a ton of time to build an app for it.
  - simplehuman 10y ago
    Cloudron.io fits the bill for all your requirements.
  - kybernetikos 10y ago
    There are quite a few replies to this talking about interesting directions for applications and platforms, all of which are great and very interesting, but none of which currently seem to offer much of a story for multimedia life logging.
- kbody 10y ago
  Zero knowledge encryption's adaption is on the rise, seems like an ideal use-case to me. It will be restrictive or rather complex and will require more work but if you want to work with this kind of data, this should be a requirement imo (in the future).
unabst 10y ago
To the best of my knowledge this is the holdup. We need an encrypted cloud. One we know only we have the keys to. There will be no data mining beyond users mining themselves, when it comes to privacy, with the line drawn by the user, not the provider.
- ultramancool 10y ago
  Check out librevault, it does encrypted file sync using a DHT to find peers, allows for encrypted-only nodes which cannot decrypt your files (so you can throw them up on cheap VPSes, or friend's machines without worry) and in a nice open source package. Only catch so far is that the file indexing seemed kind of slow compared to SyncThing last time I tried it.
pixl97 10y ago
What happens when your own security fails and now your data is released to the cloud forever? Or the data is warranted by a judge in a civil or family case?

personjerry 10y ago

What about a questionably trustworthy tech startup?

kybernetikos 10y ago
Theoretically yes. Practically I'd be very surprised if such a tech startup would have terms I would trust. Things I'd be looking at: * data ownership - including in the event the startup is bought * data access revocation - I want to be able to revoke access to my data in a meaningful way * business plan - I want to be the customer not the product for something like this * portability - I don't want to feel that I'm stuck using any one solution for my life. I really don't know if such a service can be made economically viable given such a set of requirements.
- severine 10y ago
  Take a look Su Sandstorm.
  - mcherm 10y ago
    What is that? I can't (easily) tell what it is that you are trying to suggest looking at.
    - swsieber 10y ago
      I think they mean Sandstorm.io Sandstorm pretty much meets those requirements: * Your data is exportable * They focus on security and have a non-privacy-invading business plan * You can decide exactly who to share data with, and revoke it. It's like a private hosted cloud - you have to pay for it yourself (once it's out of beta), but you could host it yourself, and it's open source. https://sandstorm.io https://sandstorm.io
- TACIXAT 10y ago
  I built Socialite.ooo, it really needs a mobile app, but it's a site for keeping track of and taking notes on people, events, and locations (correlating them). Business model is paid (haven't implemented that yet) so that there will be no selling of data. I'd love to do something with a fully encrypted system, but the usability / recovery trade offs just didn't seem worth it when designing the site. I work and am pursuing my master's, so I haven't had a ton of time to build an app for it.
- simplehuman 10y ago
  Cloudron.io fits the bill for all your requirements.
- kybernetikos 10y ago
  There are quite a few replies to this talking about interesting directions for applications and platforms, all of which are great and very interesting, but none of which currently seem to offer much of a story for multimedia life logging.
kbody 10y ago
Zero knowledge encryption's adaption is on the rise, seems like an ideal use-case to me. It will be restrictive or rather complex and will require more work but if you want to work with this kind of data, this should be a requirement imo (in the future).

unabst 10y ago

To the best of my knowledge this is the holdup. We need an encrypted cloud. One we know only we have the keys to. There will be no data mining beyond users mining themselves, when it comes to privacy, with the line drawn by the user, not the provider.

ultramancool 10y ago
Check out librevault, it does encrypted file sync using a DHT to find peers, allows for encrypted-only nodes which cannot decrypt your files (so you can throw them up on cheap VPSes, or friend's machines without worry) and in a nice open source package. Only catch so far is that the file indexing seemed kind of slow compared to SyncThing last time I tried it.

pixl97 10y ago

What happens when your own security fails and now your data is released to the cloud forever? Or the data is warranted by a judge in a civil or family case?