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Wow, someone gives a company $1million and you claim that the person is playing with dreams, time and skills? Give us a break. No startup has to accept inves

Wow, someone gives a company $1million and you claim that the person is playing with dreams, time and skills? Give us a break. No startup has to accept investor money. If you don't want their million, don't take it. Bootstrap with your own cash. The reality is that going into startup for money is a big risk, it's a big gamble. Go in for the fun, go in to learn new things, play with new tech, go in to avoid ( big company politics, enterprise style software development, meetings, locked down environments). Do it for the for the fun and if you make money great, if you don't, you come out with new experience. Long before fullstack became a buzz word, I earned my badges due to startup. I coded, I did design, I touched the DB, I setup the servers, wired the network, setup the firewalls. It was hella fun, I made $0. But my experiences from then still serves me till this very day. Cheer up, the world is not such a terrible place.

rckclmbr 10y ago
This reminds me of some documentary I watched about the Klondike Gold Rush. Someone (who obviously didn't make money at it) was interviewed by a reporter, and he said he would do it again any time just to be a part of the excitement and fun. It's cliche, but it really is about the journey not the destination.
TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
The reality is that going into startup for money is a big risk, it's a big gamble. Isn't that exactly what the parent comment said?
Hytosys 10y ago
You sound like an employee who thinks they're an employer.
Pyxl101 10y ago
> Do it for the for the fun and if you make money great, if you don't, you come out with new experience. Long before fullstack became a buzz word, I earned my badges due to startup. I coded, I did design, I touched the DB, I setup the servers, wired the network, setup the firewalls. It was hella fun, I made $0. But my experiences from then still serves me till this very day. You can have these experiences at a large tech company too, while also being paid well and while collaborating with experienced people who can teach you a lot.
- frobozz 10y ago
  Yep. In a corporate environment, I've had far more freedom to explore new technologies and work on things outside of my specialism, than I ever did in startups. When I was in startups, anything other than working in a tried-and-tested fashion using known technologies to solve the business problem was seen as forging more nails for the company's coffin. In a big organisation, I've had the freedom to fail in pursuit of innovation, without worrying about losing my job and the jobs of all my colleagues.
- tonyedgecombe 10y ago
  More likely you will be pidgin-holed into a very narrow area of responsibility with no autonomy or opportunity to grow.
  - 72deluxe 10y ago
    Not if you keep moving.
- mattlutze 10y ago
  I've passed on opportunities to move to other places because there's a level of insulation in the corporation I work for, where we're able to experiment and fail with projects that, were I or my team to do in a lean startup environment, would very possibly mean the end of our venture. There are some really, really cool things happening at a lot of startups, and some of the shining stars are making waves at the moment (e.g. High-quality all-electric cars for the common family, affordable full-home automation, autonomous for-hire fleets at the tap of a screen). But I also think there's a reason a lot of the real innovation and advancements in information technology have come out of the research laboratories at big corporations, and that's because they have the liquidity to absorb experimentation that goes nowhere without the risk of bankruptcy, and it's certainly an attractive place to go invent some awesome stuff.
rawTruthHurts 10y ago
Fun doesn't pay bills.
- stevenwiles 10y ago
  This is the kind of high-quality, insightful comment I subscribe to HN for.
  - rawTruthHurts 10y ago
    As yours is

rckclmbr 10y ago

This reminds me of some documentary I watched about the Klondike Gold Rush. Someone (who obviously didn't make money at it) was interviewed by a reporter, and he said he would do it again any time just to be a part of the excitement and fun. It's cliche, but it really is about the journey not the destination.

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

The reality is that going into startup for money is a big risk, it's a big gamble. Isn't that exactly what the parent comment said?

Hytosys 10y ago

You sound like an employee who thinks they're an employer.

Pyxl101 10y ago

> Do it for the for the fun and if you make money great, if you don't, you come out with new experience. Long before fullstack became a buzz word, I earned my badges due to startup. I coded, I did design, I touched the DB, I setup the servers, wired the network, setup the firewalls. It was hella fun, I made $0. But my experiences from then still serves me till this very day. You can have these experiences at a large tech company too, while also being paid well and while collaborating with experienced people who can teach you a lot.

frobozz 10y ago
Yep. In a corporate environment, I've had far more freedom to explore new technologies and work on things outside of my specialism, than I ever did in startups. When I was in startups, anything other than working in a tried-and-tested fashion using known technologies to solve the business problem was seen as forging more nails for the company's coffin. In a big organisation, I've had the freedom to fail in pursuit of innovation, without worrying about losing my job and the jobs of all my colleagues.
tonyedgecombe 10y ago
More likely you will be pidgin-holed into a very narrow area of responsibility with no autonomy or opportunity to grow.
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  Not if you keep moving.
mattlutze 10y ago
I've passed on opportunities to move to other places because there's a level of insulation in the corporation I work for, where we're able to experiment and fail with projects that, were I or my team to do in a lean startup environment, would very possibly mean the end of our venture. There are some really, really cool things happening at a lot of startups, and some of the shining stars are making waves at the moment (e.g. High-quality all-electric cars for the common family, affordable full-home automation, autonomous for-hire fleets at the tap of a screen). But I also think there's a reason a lot of the real innovation and advancements in information technology have come out of the research laboratories at big corporations, and that's because they have the liquidity to absorb experimentation that goes nowhere without the risk of bankruptcy, and it's certainly an attractive place to go invent some awesome stuff.

rawTruthHurts 10y ago

Fun doesn't pay bills.

stevenwiles 10y ago
This is the kind of high-quality, insightful comment I subscribe to HN for.
- rawTruthHurts 10y ago
  As yours is