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The public doesn't know anything. iPhone hit the market and I saw the public debate whether or not it was going to do well without a keyboard. Mention voice com
by 3pt14159 10y ago
The public doesn't know anything. iPhone hit the market and I saw the public debate whether or not it was going to do well without a keyboard. Mention voice commands to them and they'd just give you this dumb look.
Just as it was then, so is it now. These people don't get it. But they'll get on board because:
1. EV are cheaper per km in fuel.
2. EV are cheapre per km in maintenance.
3. EV are faster.
4. EV are safer.
5. EV are better for the environment.
There are only three things that EV are not:
1. Better range.
2. Fast refueling, but this matters less with better range.
3. Cheaper sticker price.
But when two of those three things move over to the other list, it's game over. 100% of people will buy / rent EV. They'll tax roads with cellphone tracking or built right into the car.
- Beltiras 10y agoI think it wouldn't even take one. The majority of car use is within the range of the mid-range EVs (150-250 km). Charging can mostly take place at night and some localities even have cheaper utility bills for night-time use. EVs already make economic sense because of 1. and 2.
- oblio 10y agoQuick question: I live in a city with a density of >1000 people / km2. Where will I charge my car?
- Retric 10y agoAdding basic overnight car chargers is about as complex as installing lighting. Fast charging is much more complex and costly, but a 1 to 2cent / kWh fee can pay for that infrastructure fairly quickly and it still ends up much cheaper than gas.
- sangnoir 10y ago> Adding basic overnight car chargers is about as complex as installing lighting. Adding the chargers where?
- zo1 10y agoInto your own house/garage. It's fundamentally different to an engine that requires a fuel. I.e. the last-mile delivery is not that different to a centralized one, so you don't need to go to a central location to re-fuel/recharge, you just do it at home.
- majewsky 10y agoYou're assuming that you have an own house/garage. If I had a car, I could only park it at the streetside near my apartment.
- manicdee 10y agoSame place you park your car for 8 or more hours a day.
- oblio 10y agoWho's going to pay for that? Who's going to get approval? How are you going to keep track of who used the power supply and then charge them?
- agumonkey 10y agoAirport added EV parking spots with a credit card paying terminal. Seems fairly possible to do the same for other parking spots unless it's a special electric line (Volts, Amps).
- oblio 10y agoBut that would mean thet every parking spot would have its own POS. Or that superchargers would be at least as common as gas stations. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that people are grossly underestimating the costs and the time to build the infrastructure. And let's not even go into developing countries. In Bucharest people barely have a parking spot (legal or not), many park on the sidewalk. Mass electric vehicle usage is at least 10 years into the future in developed countries and probably 20+ in developing ones.
- ArkyBeagle 10y agoThe iPhone was a draw to an inside straight. I don't know how much carry there is from the iPhone adoption to E/V adoption. Your "3. Cheaper sticker price." dominates, I think. I think this because most people are mainly constrained in consumption behavior by how much financing they can qualify for. Even GM became effectively a finance company that owned a carmaking apparatus. But perhaps E/V will appeal to younger buyers - the sort of people who seem to prefer bicycles now - because it's not an IC engine. It then just depends on how broke they are. And perhaps pooling/leasing may figure in.
- 3pt14159 10y agoRent is the answer to high upfront cost and low maintenance operations cost.