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If I were to ever buy a Tesla, could I turn off data collection? If not... that would turn off a lot of privacy-conscious people, which Tesla doesn't tend to a

by Fej 10y ago

If I were to ever buy a Tesla, could I turn off data collection? If not... that would turn off a lot of privacy-conscious people, which Tesla doesn't tend to attract at its current prices but may become relevant as they come out with cheaper cars.

JulianMorrison 10y ago
If you have a mobile phone, you are already broadcasting your location. Go to google maps, open the sidebar menu, select "your timeline". Sorry. Privacy kind of went byebye.
- serf 10y ago
  I don't understand arguments like that. "You already have heart disease, who cares about colorectal cancer? Have a cheeseburger!" Privacy isn't some binary choice, and having less data collected means less data being spilled when X company has a server compromised.
- NeutronBoy 10y ago
  > If you have a mobile phone, you are already broadcasting your location. Go to google maps, open the sidebar menu, select "your timeline". Except you can, you know, turn that off.
- Fej 10y ago
  I'm aware of Google Location History. I turned it off. In any case, there's a difference between Google storing my location (they don't), Tesla storing my location (they would), and NSA storing my location (they do). Google gives me the option to opt out. If I opt in, they give me cool features that require said location history. NSA doesn't let anyone opt out, naturally. Tesla doesn't let users opt out, even if they don't use autopilot. As we've seen, they actively use their location data to attempt to exonerate themselves whenever there's any kind of accident. In any case, Tesla gives me nothing in return for this information. If I were to try to modify the car to send no data, I don't doubt that Tesla would disable the fucking car.
xkcd-sucks 10y ago
You could remove the SIM card (if there is one), remove the antennas, pry off the modem, run a cell jammer (only for driving in Antarctica!), drive it in the middle of nowhere, DOS them via your free network connection until they boot you off (and hopefully they don't brick your car), etc...

by Fej 10y ago

JulianMorrison 10y ago

If you have a mobile phone, you are already broadcasting your location. Go to google maps, open the sidebar menu, select "your timeline". Sorry. Privacy kind of went byebye.

serf 10y ago
I don't understand arguments like that. "You already have heart disease, who cares about colorectal cancer? Have a cheeseburger!" Privacy isn't some binary choice, and having less data collected means less data being spilled when X company has a server compromised.
NeutronBoy 10y ago
> If you have a mobile phone, you are already broadcasting your location. Go to google maps, open the sidebar menu, select "your timeline". Except you can, you know, turn that off.
Fej 10y ago
I'm aware of Google Location History. I turned it off. In any case, there's a difference between Google storing my location (they don't), Tesla storing my location (they would), and NSA storing my location (they do). Google gives me the option to opt out. If I opt in, they give me cool features that require said location history. NSA doesn't let anyone opt out, naturally. Tesla doesn't let users opt out, even if they don't use autopilot. As we've seen, they actively use their location data to attempt to exonerate themselves whenever there's any kind of accident. In any case, Tesla gives me nothing in return for this information. If I were to try to modify the car to send no data, I don't doubt that Tesla would disable the fucking car.

xkcd-sucks 10y ago

You could remove the SIM card (if there is one), remove the antennas, pry off the modem, run a cell jammer (only for driving in Antarctica!), drive it in the middle of nowhere, DOS them via your free network connection until they boot you off (and hopefully they don't brick your car), etc...