> You have no choice on whether to participate in the market economy > society thinks it's okay to deny you healthcare and starve you to death. You seem to b

> You have no choice on whether to participate in the market economy > society thinks it's okay to deny you healthcare and starve you to death. You seem to be saying that it's a problem if society makes you participate in the free market, but it's not a problem when you have to participate in an unfree market instead of a free market. (And of course it's worth mentioning that even the USA, capitalist enemy #1, has Medicare and doesn't let people starve.) > the view that the market should dictate everyone's life is as collectivist as it gets. Well, your life is either going to be defined by a system where people trade goods and services in an ad hoc manner uncontrolled by a government, or in a planned manner explicitly controlled by a government (possibly in negotiation with a strong labor union). One of these is more individualistic. It's not the one where people work real hard to get a job (one of the few), keep the same job for all 40 years of their working life, aggressively lobby against people choosing to pay custom to the disruptive competition which employs immigrants (and protest it by burning tires in the streets), et cetera. We could argue many things saying that system is superior but individualism isn't one of them.