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Best i can tell, at least 3 complete version of Windows hiding behind a single UI. And while the capacity is huge in a numerical sense, crazily enough it does

Best i can tell, at least 3 complete version of Windows hiding behind a single UI. And while the capacity is huge in a numerical sense, crazily enough it does not take much entertainment content to pack it to the brim. Depending on your taste in compression, you get between 16 and 32 HD movies on there (ignoring the space needed for the OS). And i have a "casual" game here on my Android tablet (8GB) that is bordering on a gig on its own. It quickly adds up...

kbenson 10y ago
I appreciate the point, but not everyone loads their tablets with video media, much less HD movies. We have 4 tablets (and a few phones) in my family, across a wide range of android-type devices (i.e. including some Kindle Fires), and while the kids do fill them up with games rather quick, none of us put movies on them. We stream everything we want to watch because it's more convenient. 32GB still seems rather large to me, given how we use our devices.
glhaynes 10y ago
Best i can tell, at least 3 complete version of Windows hiding behind a single UI. What do you mean? Having both 32-/64-bit versions of things? Or separate versions of DLLs for compatibility mode(s)? Something else?
- digi_owl 10y ago
  All of the above. You have 32-bit compatibility layers going back to Windows 95, including whatever is needed to render a GUI from that era. And you have 64-bit, possibly going as far back as Windows XP.
  - ZenoArrow 10y ago
    Are you sure? IIRC, from Windows 7 onwards XP compatibility was handled with a VM, and I'm fairly confident there's little in the way of Win95 support in Windows 10 (bear in mind Windows 10 is a continuation of the Windows NT line of operating systems, the Win9x operating systems were not in this lineage). http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7 http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-wind...
    - asveikau 10y ago
      > IIRC, from Windows 7 onwards XP compatibility was handled with a VM You have a funny definition of "is handled with". Your link describes manually installing additional, optional software to get a VM, not a feature of the Windows OS. I don't think very many people have done this and plenty of XP-era software "just works" without it.
      - ZenoArrow 10y ago
        XP mode exists in Windows 7 and beyond because Microsoft doesn't promise full compatibility with Windows XP. If some XP software "just works" it's no guarantee that it will continue to work as Windows changes. Furthermore, regarding "optional software to get a VM, not a feature of the Windows OS", XP Mode is a feature of the OS in the sense that the seamless integration with the apps running in the VM was designed by Microsoft for the purpose of supporting older software. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=8002 https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=800... Out of interest, which XP-era software just works without it? I'm not talking about software that has been compiled for later Windows versions, I'm talking about software that hasn't been updated since XP.
        asveikau 10y ago
        > XP mode exists in Windows 7 Simply, it does not. Do a clean install. It's not there. That is why you have to go to that web page and click that big "download" button. > Out of interest, which XP-era software just works without it? Almost everything. PS: I was on the windows team during development of 7.
        ZenoArrow 10y ago
        > "Simply, it does not. Do a clean install. It's not there. That is why you have to go to that web page and click that big "download" button." The assertion made was that Windows 10 contains multiple versions of Windows under the hood. If XP was one of these OS then there would be no need for that 'big download button', yet it exists. Why do you think that is? > "PS: I was on the windows team during development of 7." Good, then you can clear up what incompatibilities Windows 7 has with older Windows versions. For example, what level of support is there for Windows 95 software?
- Narishma 10y ago
  Do those things really take up that much space?

kbenson 10y ago

I appreciate the point, but not everyone loads their tablets with video media, much less HD movies. We have 4 tablets (and a few phones) in my family, across a wide range of android-type devices (i.e. including some Kindle Fires), and while the kids do fill them up with games rather quick, none of us put movies on them. We stream everything we want to watch because it's more convenient. 32GB still seems rather large to me, given how we use our devices.

glhaynes 10y ago

Best i can tell, at least 3 complete version of Windows hiding behind a single UI. What do you mean? Having both 32-/64-bit versions of things? Or separate versions of DLLs for compatibility mode(s)? Something else?

digi_owl 10y ago
All of the above. You have 32-bit compatibility layers going back to Windows 95, including whatever is needed to render a GUI from that era. And you have 64-bit, possibly going as far back as Windows XP.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago
  Are you sure? IIRC, from Windows 7 onwards XP compatibility was handled with a VM, and I'm fairly confident there's little in the way of Win95 support in Windows 10 (bear in mind Windows 10 is a continuation of the Windows NT line of operating systems, the Win9x operating systems were not in this lineage). http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7 http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-wind...
  - asveikau 10y ago
    > IIRC, from Windows 7 onwards XP compatibility was handled with a VM You have a funny definition of "is handled with". Your link describes manually installing additional, optional software to get a VM, not a feature of the Windows OS. I don't think very many people have done this and plenty of XP-era software "just works" without it.
    - ZenoArrow 10y ago
      XP mode exists in Windows 7 and beyond because Microsoft doesn't promise full compatibility with Windows XP. If some XP software "just works" it's no guarantee that it will continue to work as Windows changes. Furthermore, regarding "optional software to get a VM, not a feature of the Windows OS", XP Mode is a feature of the OS in the sense that the seamless integration with the apps running in the VM was designed by Microsoft for the purpose of supporting older software. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=8002 https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=800... Out of interest, which XP-era software just works without it? I'm not talking about software that has been compiled for later Windows versions, I'm talking about software that hasn't been updated since XP.
      - asveikau 10y ago
        > XP mode exists in Windows 7 Simply, it does not. Do a clean install. It's not there. That is why you have to go to that web page and click that big "download" button. > Out of interest, which XP-era software just works without it? Almost everything. PS: I was on the windows team during development of 7.
        ZenoArrow 10y ago
        > "Simply, it does not. Do a clean install. It's not there. That is why you have to go to that web page and click that big "download" button." The assertion made was that Windows 10 contains multiple versions of Windows under the hood. If XP was one of these OS then there would be no need for that 'big download button', yet it exists. Why do you think that is? > "PS: I was on the windows team during development of 7." Good, then you can clear up what incompatibilities Windows 7 has with older Windows versions. For example, what level of support is there for Windows 95 software?
Narishma 10y ago
Do those things really take up that much space?