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How is it better than the 20MP Zeiss optically-stabilized DNG enabled camera in my Nokia 930? The article reads like a big and not very trustworthy advert.

by cabirum 10y ago

morganvachon 10y ago
Objectively, it's apples and oranges (pardon the obvious pun); the sensors and lenses are completely different, as is the software on the phones. One is not 100% better or worse than the other, they each have strengths and weaknesses that more or less balance them out. Subjectively, it's whatever you prefer. I'm with you; some of the Nokia Lumia cameras easily outperform the best Apple has ever offered, and I say that as someone who currently uses an iPhone 6. If I wasn't so concerned about the future of Windows Phone I'd still be on that platform, since the camera is the second most important part of a smartphone for me (the most being stability/reliability, which Windows Phone 8.1 had but Windows 10 does not, hence my switch to iPhone).
rangibaby 10y ago
2 years is a long time in mobile cameras at this point. The Nikon D700 from 2008 shoots at 12MP but still one of the most highly regarded DSLRs (used is still ~$800). More important than MP is the quality of the sensor and lens, and I bet there is a lot of development and improvement in the "small" category. Just because Zeiss made the lens doesn't mean it is better than anything else. Your only guarantee if you see the the word Zeiss is that it will be expensive ;-) I'm not an Apple fanboy or anything and definitely prefer any SLR (digital or otherwise) to phone potatocams, but they are getting better so quickly.
- cabirum 10y ago
  D700 being still relevant means sensor tech is moving slower than the rest of mobile industry. I didn't mean to accentuate specifically on Zeiss brand. My point is there's nothing revolutionary in today's iPhone 7 compared to 2 year old Lumias. Some big things (optical stabilization) are even missing. And it's sensor+software seem good enough even today.

How is it better than the 20MP Zeiss optically-stabilized DNG enabled camera in my Nokia 930? The article reads like a big and not very trustworthy advert.

by cabirum 10y ago

How is it better than the 20MP Zeiss optically-stabilized DNG enabled camera in my Nokia 930? The article reads like a big and not very trustworthy advert.

morganvachon 10y ago

Objectively, it's apples and oranges (pardon the obvious pun); the sensors and lenses are completely different, as is the software on the phones. One is not 100% better or worse than the other, they each have strengths and weaknesses that more or less balance them out. Subjectively, it's whatever you prefer. I'm with you; some of the Nokia Lumia cameras easily outperform the best Apple has ever offered, and I say that as someone who currently uses an iPhone 6. If I wasn't so concerned about the future of Windows Phone I'd still be on that platform, since the camera is the second most important part of a smartphone for me (the most being stability/reliability, which Windows Phone 8.1 had but Windows 10 does not, hence my switch to iPhone).

rangibaby 10y ago

2 years is a long time in mobile cameras at this point. The Nikon D700 from 2008 shoots at 12MP but still one of the most highly regarded DSLRs (used is still ~$800). More important than MP is the quality of the sensor and lens, and I bet there is a lot of development and improvement in the "small" category. Just because Zeiss made the lens doesn't mean it is better than anything else. Your only guarantee if you see the the word Zeiss is that it will be expensive ;-) I'm not an Apple fanboy or anything and definitely prefer any SLR (digital or otherwise) to phone potatocams, but they are getting better so quickly.

cabirum 10y ago
D700 being still relevant means sensor tech is moving slower than the rest of mobile industry. I didn't mean to accentuate specifically on Zeiss brand. My point is there's nothing revolutionary in today's iPhone 7 compared to 2 year old Lumias. Some big things (optical stabilization) are even missing. And it's sensor+software seem good enough even today.