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I don't like the doubled arrow and the separate button. In germany things are worse though: sometimes no feedback at all, feels like a hard cover plastic witho

I don't like the doubled arrow and the separate button. In germany things are worse though: sometimes no feedback at all, feels like a hard cover plastic without any feedback at all. It seems to register touch (some do have a "please wait" lighting up when you touch it). For the blind there is a nub hidden underneath. It has an embossed arrow on it and because of its horizontal orientation it can point precisely to the right direction. It vibrates when it's safe to cross. However this is the place that stays wet the longest after rain and where people smear their chewing gum and the cleaning personal doesn't even see it. I still enjoy the buttons, so I don'- have to focus on the lights all the time. edit: when you don't know about the nub for the blind, there is no arrow indication at all. When standing on an isle in the middle of a street and there are two buttons on one pole opposed to each other, I never knew which to press: the one facing where I want to go, or the one facing me while I face where I want to go (I think it's the latter)

alirazaq 10y ago
There is no feedback because those are not crosswalk buttons; they are for the blind.
- anotheryou 10y ago
  nope, there are definitely some that serve as buttons and are touchable, but not pushable edit: "please touch" it says: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12120429_1104550972929918_601855274_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIyNjE0ODk4NTMzNzI5NjE1MA%3D%3D.2 https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.0... all kind of weird versions: http://www.rtb-bl.de/RTB/lza-zusatzausstattung/taster/funktionsvarianten/ http://www.rtb-bl.de/RTB/lza-zusatzausstattung/taster/funkti...
foxylion 10y ago
And then there are is a new version of the "bad feedback" button in Germany. It has a "please wait" light but it will only activate a few seconds after touching the button. So anyone touching the button softly thinks it didn't work and touches harder (some hit it with huge force). Unfortunately the first touch would be enough, but who would expect that a touch takes a few seconds until it's converted into a visible feedback for the user... I don't get it how something like this can get through an user acceptance test.
djsumdog 10y ago
Yea the German ones were weird. My ex (who is legally blind) would use the blind button, but wasn't sure if it actually did anything. They have no feed back of visual indicators otherwise. I really like the New Zealand ones. They're like the Australian ones, but the red guy on the other side only lights up after it's been pressed (instead of the little red dot that's on the button for the Australian ones). Also there were a few Australian ones that switched to the non-button feed back. OMG they sounded awful. There were like two where I lived. I think they were an experiment that failed and were forgotten about.
- anotheryou 10y ago
  I also still don't know (living here all my life). It moves in quite a bit though...

alirazaq 10y ago

There is no feedback because those are not crosswalk buttons; they are for the blind.

anotheryou 10y ago
nope, there are definitely some that serve as buttons and are touchable, but not pushable edit: "please touch" it says: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12120429_1104550972929918_601855274_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIyNjE0ODk4NTMzNzI5NjE1MA%3D%3D.2 https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.0... all kind of weird versions: http://www.rtb-bl.de/RTB/lza-zusatzausstattung/taster/funktionsvarianten/ http://www.rtb-bl.de/RTB/lza-zusatzausstattung/taster/funkti...

foxylion 10y ago

And then there are is a new version of the "bad feedback" button in Germany. It has a "please wait" light but it will only activate a few seconds after touching the button. So anyone touching the button softly thinks it didn't work and touches harder (some hit it with huge force). Unfortunately the first touch would be enough, but who would expect that a touch takes a few seconds until it's converted into a visible feedback for the user... I don't get it how something like this can get through an user acceptance test.

djsumdog 10y ago

Yea the German ones were weird. My ex (who is legally blind) would use the blind button, but wasn't sure if it actually did anything. They have no feed back of visual indicators otherwise. I really like the New Zealand ones. They're like the Australian ones, but the red guy on the other side only lights up after it's been pressed (instead of the little red dot that's on the button for the Australian ones). Also there were a few Australian ones that switched to the non-button feed back. OMG they sounded awful. There were like two where I lived. I think they were an experiment that failed and were forgotten about.

anotheryou 10y ago
I also still don't know (living here all my life). It moves in quite a bit though...