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Not being able to copy my files in and out is a deal breaker for me. That's sad as the device looks really neat. I'm not interested in encouraging Apple to bui

Not being able to copy my files in and out is a deal breaker for me. That's sad as the device looks really neat. I'm not interested in encouraging Apple to build an ecosystem where I have to pay every time I move my data around.

cloudwalking 17y ago
Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTU0Nzc4MDQ5 https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTU0Nzc4MDQ5) is cool, though the iPad only lets you save pictures. Airsharing (http://avatron.com/apps/ http://avatron.com/apps/) lets you (sort of) use the iPad as a target drive.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Why should something that is basic functionality require third party services?
  - cloudwalking 17y ago
    The user experience gleans a lot of simplicity by abstracting hiding the filesystem. If you can't monkey with files, you can only break things programmatically. It's definitely different, and frustrating for superusers, but I think it will be perfect for the majority of the population.
    - shin_lao 17y ago
      I'm sorry but you can both allow files to be moved (photo, music, movies, documents) and abstract the file system. When I move the photos from my camera to my computer, I don't have to deal with the file system at any moment.
      - doron 17y ago
        Exactly I dig the ipad allot, but Itunes and the design imperative behind it (it organizes my files, not me) never worked for me, it never worked for my music, it wont work for documents.
      - GHFigs 17y ago
        Interesting choice of example, as loading photos from a camera is something the iPad can do without third-party software.
    - aswanson 17y ago
      Superusers that want to write a document and put it on another computer?
  - david927 17y ago
    The iPad is a $500 tax for being a fanboy.
  - GHFigs 17y ago
    Because it isn't basic for everybody. It's conceptually simple, but hundreds of millions of computer and cell phone users go through through most days without ever doing it at all. It is much more familiar and convenient to them to use messaging or the cloud or automated software. What I mean is that from the perspective of a mass-market electronics maker, it's something you can leave at a low priority. It'd be nice for some people, but most won't miss it and you can sell tens of millions of devices without it. Why do what few want?
- stcredzero 17y ago
  What if Apple were to add a "transfer" API that let one move files between apps? How about a window that you could open to see all of the App document collections as folders? That could let you drag and drop items to/from the desktop.
redcap 17y ago
There are (apparently cludgy) ways of moving your informationi about, but the impression I've had from this and other sites is that the iPad is more of a read/watch platform than a text-input one. Unless you attach an external keyboard, the speed limitation of entering punctuation and numbers would be more of a deal-breaker for me if I were on the lookout for a very portable semi-work machine.
- michael_dorfman 17y ago
  ...and how do you plan on attaching that external keyboard, since the iPad doesn't seem to have any ports? It's a closed system, by design.
  - adamt 17y ago
    The ipad supports Bluetooth keyboards. It even has a special apple version available that also holds the ipad up as a screen.
  - jodrellblank 17y ago
    Go to apple.com/ipad and look around a bit or watch th keynote of the ipad's release. How to attach an external keyboard is explained in both places.
- stcredzero 17y ago
  No speed limitation for me. I can type at full speed in landscape mode with the iPad on my lap. With the autocorrection feature, I can even take the sorts of shortcuts one uses when texting on old cellphones, but with a full qwerty keyboard. (No need to hit the shift key to capitalize iPad correctly, for example.)
marknutter 17y ago
I have a feeling that if this was resolved you'd find another deal breaker.

cloudwalking 17y ago

Dropbox (https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTU0Nzc4MDQ5 https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTU0Nzc4MDQ5) is cool, though the iPad only lets you save pictures. Airsharing (http://avatron.com/apps/ http://avatron.com/apps/) lets you (sort of) use the iPad as a target drive.

jacquesm 17y ago
Why should something that is basic functionality require third party services?
- cloudwalking 17y ago
  The user experience gleans a lot of simplicity by abstracting hiding the filesystem. If you can't monkey with files, you can only break things programmatically. It's definitely different, and frustrating for superusers, but I think it will be perfect for the majority of the population.
  - shin_lao 17y ago
    I'm sorry but you can both allow files to be moved (photo, music, movies, documents) and abstract the file system. When I move the photos from my camera to my computer, I don't have to deal with the file system at any moment.
    - doron 17y ago
      Exactly I dig the ipad allot, but Itunes and the design imperative behind it (it organizes my files, not me) never worked for me, it never worked for my music, it wont work for documents.
    - GHFigs 17y ago
      Interesting choice of example, as loading photos from a camera is something the iPad can do without third-party software.
  - aswanson 17y ago
    Superusers that want to write a document and put it on another computer?
- david927 17y ago
  The iPad is a $500 tax for being a fanboy.
- GHFigs 17y ago
  Because it isn't basic for everybody. It's conceptually simple, but hundreds of millions of computer and cell phone users go through through most days without ever doing it at all. It is much more familiar and convenient to them to use messaging or the cloud or automated software. What I mean is that from the perspective of a mass-market electronics maker, it's something you can leave at a low priority. It'd be nice for some people, but most won't miss it and you can sell tens of millions of devices without it. Why do what few want?
stcredzero 17y ago
What if Apple were to add a "transfer" API that let one move files between apps? How about a window that you could open to see all of the App document collections as folders? That could let you drag and drop items to/from the desktop.

redcap 17y ago

There are (apparently cludgy) ways of moving your informationi about, but the impression I've had from this and other sites is that the iPad is more of a read/watch platform than a text-input one. Unless you attach an external keyboard, the speed limitation of entering punctuation and numbers would be more of a deal-breaker for me if I were on the lookout for a very portable semi-work machine.

michael_dorfman 17y ago
...and how do you plan on attaching that external keyboard, since the iPad doesn't seem to have any ports? It's a closed system, by design.
- adamt 17y ago
  The ipad supports Bluetooth keyboards. It even has a special apple version available that also holds the ipad up as a screen.
- jodrellblank 17y ago
  Go to apple.com/ipad and look around a bit or watch th keynote of the ipad's release. How to attach an external keyboard is explained in both places.
stcredzero 17y ago
No speed limitation for me. I can type at full speed in landscape mode with the iPad on my lap. With the autocorrection feature, I can even take the sorts of shortcuts one uses when texting on old cellphones, but with a full qwerty keyboard. (No need to hit the shift key to capitalize iPad correctly, for example.)

marknutter 17y ago

I have a feeling that if this was resolved you'd find another deal breaker.