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One more thing Since I have set-up both in production (and more than once) I can tell you for a fact. Kube is easier to setup and easier to run with less probl

One more thing Since I have set-up both in production (and more than once) I can tell you for a fact. Kube is easier to setup and easier to run with less problems along the way. Since I am running essentially the same cluster on kube that I ran on mesos, this is a no-bullshit comparison. [To be fair] I never used dc/os, I used marathon and chronos on top of mesos.

amr_abdelrazik 10y ago
You should give DC/OS a try, Mesos required some time and skill to implement, DC/OS GUI and CLI installers solves that completely.
- avitzurel 10y ago
  I absolutely agree. DC/OS looks really interesting. I am working on an open source project called "The Startup Stack" to essentially help startups bootstrap (and manage) a cluster in the cloud. link: http://docs.the-startup-stack.com/ http://docs.the-startup-stack.com/ Right now, it's working using mesos/marathon etc... 2 companies are using it in production. In the last couple of months I've been thinking about making the move to Kube for this project. I might evaluate DC/OS as part of it. Working on this project made me appreciate how hard it is to generalize and hit everyone's taste. There's a lot of customizing around cloud infrastructure now and I definitely feel there are more common grounds we can create. I'll give DC/OS a shot before making my final decision. Thank you for your suggestion and your awesome comments on this thread. I was always impressed with the mesosphere team in previous discussions here on HN.
- avitzurel 10y ago
  b.t.w, when I started the-startup-stack DC/OS was an enterprise offering. Coincidentally, you announced the open source version on my birthday this year. Maybe it's a sign :)
  - amr_abdelrazik 10y ago
    you are welcome, and if you need anything just reach out on the dcos slack community channel, you can find me there
SEJeff 10y ago
I'm in exactly the same boat as you with the caveat that I did look into and test DC/OS. It is too little too late. Also I see Mesosphere (as a company) more or less smothering the ecosystem very similarly to how Docker is doing with Swarm and the Docker ecosystem. I went to MesosCon this year and the previous. Last year it was a really fun kind of scrappy conference. This year it was basically "buy DC/OS". Even the open source vendor booths all had "works with DC/OS" stickers. It reminded me of "Dell recommends Microsoft Windows XP Professional for the best experience" crap that Microsoft used to pull with OEM's licensing windows. I was really unimpressed. Whereas Mesosphere is adding hooks into mesos to add things like AAA (Authentication, Auditing, Authorization) and then implementing it as proprietary modules in their commercial DC/OS, It is native and open source in Kubernetes (thanks to Redhat contributing code from openshift). So on one hand I see a young ecosystem being swallowed by a single vendor who is slowly squashing the community. On the other hand I see several vendors doing everything in the open and a huge community. With the technical capabilities of both quickly converging as k8s implements a lot of the things Mesos used to have over it, Mesos is becoming less and less "sexy" and more like a liability unless you want to roll your own everything like Apple did with their Jarvis scheduler for Siri.

amr_abdelrazik 10y ago

You should give DC/OS a try, Mesos required some time and skill to implement, DC/OS GUI and CLI installers solves that completely.

avitzurel 10y ago
I absolutely agree. DC/OS looks really interesting. I am working on an open source project called "The Startup Stack" to essentially help startups bootstrap (and manage) a cluster in the cloud. link: http://docs.the-startup-stack.com/ http://docs.the-startup-stack.com/ Right now, it's working using mesos/marathon etc... 2 companies are using it in production. In the last couple of months I've been thinking about making the move to Kube for this project. I might evaluate DC/OS as part of it. Working on this project made me appreciate how hard it is to generalize and hit everyone's taste. There's a lot of customizing around cloud infrastructure now and I definitely feel there are more common grounds we can create. I'll give DC/OS a shot before making my final decision. Thank you for your suggestion and your awesome comments on this thread. I was always impressed with the mesosphere team in previous discussions here on HN.
avitzurel 10y ago
b.t.w, when I started the-startup-stack DC/OS was an enterprise offering. Coincidentally, you announced the open source version on my birthday this year. Maybe it's a sign :)
- amr_abdelrazik 10y ago
  you are welcome, and if you need anything just reach out on the dcos slack community channel, you can find me there

SEJeff 10y ago

I'm in exactly the same boat as you with the caveat that I did look into and test DC/OS. It is too little too late. Also I see Mesosphere (as a company) more or less smothering the ecosystem very similarly to how Docker is doing with Swarm and the Docker ecosystem. I went to MesosCon this year and the previous. Last year it was a really fun kind of scrappy conference. This year it was basically "buy DC/OS". Even the open source vendor booths all had "works with DC/OS" stickers. It reminded me of "Dell recommends Microsoft Windows XP Professional for the best experience" crap that Microsoft used to pull with OEM's licensing windows. I was really unimpressed. Whereas Mesosphere is adding hooks into mesos to add things like AAA (Authentication, Auditing, Authorization) and then implementing it as proprietary modules in their commercial DC/OS, It is native and open source in Kubernetes (thanks to Redhat contributing code from openshift). So on one hand I see a young ecosystem being swallowed by a single vendor who is slowly squashing the community. On the other hand I see several vendors doing everything in the open and a huge community. With the technical capabilities of both quickly converging as k8s implements a lot of the things Mesos used to have over it, Mesos is becoming less and less "sexy" and more like a liability unless you want to roll your own everything like Apple did with their Jarvis scheduler for Siri.