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Just wanted to give the author a shoutout for being awesome. This article is published with an AMP version[0] too, which is pretty unusual for smaller blogging
by ejcx 10y ago
Just wanted to give the author a shoutout for being awesome. This article is published with an AMP version[0] too, which is pretty unusual for smaller blogging sites.
AMP articles are so much easier on my eyes (and the author can't include their own javascript on an AMP page, so there is less bloat). I wish all bloggers started to publish AMP pages.
[0] - http://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropbox-hacks-your-mac/amp/ http://applehelpwriter.com/2016/08/29/discovering-how-dropbo...
- look_waldo 10y agoI agree, it was a great read!
- blowski 10y agoKudos to the OP for doing it, and for anyone using WordPress, it's pretty easy for you to do it too: https://wordpress.org/plugins/amp/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/amp/
- nathancahill 10y agoThis is how the entire web should be, honestly.
- gibrown 10y agoThe site is running on WordPress.com where every site has AMP enabled: https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/amp-for-wordpress-dot-com/ https://en.blog.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/amp-for-wordpress-d... AMP integration still a work in progress, but getting better: https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp
- tqkxzugoaupvwqr 10y agoAMP is not the solution. Anyone willing to use AMP to reduce bloat could also just not add bloat to HTML pages in the first place. And, using AMP itself adds bloat[1]. I couldn’t even read the author’s AMP version without enabling JavaScript. [1] https://www.ampproject.org/docs/get_started/create/basic_markup.html https://www.ampproject.org/docs/get_started/create/basic_mar...
- pvdebbe 10y agoI can read all mentioned pages with NoScript enabled. But fully agreed that static pages such as blogs shouldn't require JS to show the primary content.
- pyre 10y agoThat depends. What about blog posts that have inline JS demos?
- pvdebbe 10y agoThat would be a reasonable exception. Of course, I'd only give the page a 5/5 rating if the JS code would be still readable even if no output would be produced.
- nkrisc 10y agoClearly that's an exception, I don't think that really needs to be discussed or considered when talking about static blogs not needing JavaScript.
- pvdebbe 10y agoOne example: in my static blog I provide very nice maths using MathJax, but I also provide fallback PNG renders of the formulae. The small JS my blog has, it reads these pictures' alt texts and renders the latex if found. This stuff is not rocket science, people just don't want to spend time on this kind of stuff.
- jads 10y ago> I wish all bloggers started to publish AMP pages. I wish all bloggers with sites so bloated that AMP is a fundamental difference didn't feel they needed to include large image assets, custom fonts, and fancy JavaScript libraries (not suggesting this blogger does - just a general complaint).
- bitwize 10y agoWhy not an "HTML with minimal styles and no JavaScript" version? Oh wait, that's not reactive.
- djsumdog 10y agoIt can be: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
- bitwize 10y agoBut nobody actually makes web sites like that any more. Have you seen the one for Emacs? It looks like a page for some barista's Node.js side project, it's got so much hipster cruft now.
- dredmorbius 10y agoEver so slightly more polished: https://codepen.io/dredmorbius/full/KpMqqB/ https://codepen.io/dredmorbius/full/KpMqqB/
- mcbits 10y agoThat's hard on the eyes, and the headings look like links. The top-level headings look just plain broken when they wrap.
- dredmorbius 10y agoWrapping is all-but-inevitable given dynamic display widths. What would your preference be? Smaller fonts for headers?
- mcbits 10y agoIt's the bottom border that looks off when wrapping. Since the headings are already distinguished by whitespace, size, weight, and color, the border doesn't really add anything. Overall, the page is not conveying a hierarchy to me at all. It looks very disjointed. My preference would be to remove the borders/underlines, also remove the bold, and make the margins equal above and below the h3+ headings. If I were to actually use more than three headings, I'd probably do something completely different at the deepest levels (e.g. inline the headings or indent the whole text). But I think we agree that it's worth some effort to fix up the browser's default styles. It's too bad they can't all just switch to something like Firefox's reader view without breaking the web.
- mmagin 10y agoHey, I remember WAP!
- smpetrey 10y agoIn case there are any Wordpress bloggers and authors out there who would like to add AMP functionality to their websites Automattic put together a nice plugin tool to do just that.[0] I wonder when this will become part of the wp-core? [0] https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp
- snowwrestler 10y agoI hope never. This is clearly the sort of thing that should be optional--which is exactly why Wordpress has a plugin system.
- JoshMnem 10y agoAMP is terrible for publishers though. It would be better if the site would publish simpler HTML/JS than use AMP.
- gr2020 10y agoI'd be a lot happier with AMP if they'd stop hijacking the scrolling behavior on iOS (speed and momentum is different than on a regular web page). It drives me absolutely crazy.
- breatheoften 10y agoOh no!! I never heard of AMP before but now I hate it with a passion. Anything that spreads the terrible gmail style scrolling behavior is all bad in my eyes.