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Where do you see a comment section? Ah, maybe it is hidden in my browser. It is looking at genetic differences between humans, which is something to be careful

by onli 10y ago

Where do you see a comment section? Ah, maybe it is hidden in my browser. It is looking at genetic differences between humans, which is something to be careful with. Though only US-americans (and Nazis, weird coincidence) think that genetic differences between humans mean that they are of a different race. The article itself is less surprising than one might think. Mexicans in the north, center and south already look very different, with very typical types of looks being common in those areas. And I'm not talking about clothing and style here. It is not surprising that those visible differences show deeper differences.

hood_syntax 10y ago
> only US-americans and Nazis Citation needed.
- onli 10y ago
  Personal experience. Those "race" elements in official forms – and, more so, the use of that word in everyday media speak – I only saw in the US, and they'd be impossible where I come from.
  - ihaveajob 10y ago
    That was my initial feeling as well when I moved to the US. But then I learned that it tends to be Democrats that favors such information gathering, because it supports affirmative action, whereas Republicans would generally like to ignore race differences altogether The whole enterprise is flawed anyway. Being Spanish (from Spain), the official definition of Hispanic applies to me, which entitles me to receive special attention that is obviously intended for non-Europeans.
wosos 10y ago
Probably an adblocker is breaking the comments component.
SamBam 10y ago
> Though only US-americans (and Nazis, weird coincidence) think that genetic differences between humans mean that they are of a different race. I don't even know what this comment is supposed to mean. Is it saying that other nations don't subscribe to the notion of "race?" Because that's complete BS, as anyone who has travelled outside of the US would know. Do we bring up apartheid in South Africa? European colonialism, and their views on race? Chinese views on race? Racism in Brazil? Saudi Arabia? Russia? I'm just confused as to what you mean. Here's a simple example: The Wikipedia article on Race (human categorization), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization), has a list of translations in the left column, with something like 60 languages listed. I can only read four others (Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese), but they all say pretty much the same thing as each other. I think any person with any understanding of the subject can agree that scientifically, the categorization of humans into "races" is meaningless and absurd, but this certainly doesn't mean that people all over the world do have this social construct. And most cultures also have a long list of stereotypes and assumptions that they apply to different "races."
- onli 10y ago
  That's not the core part of my comment, it was a side remark. I think it is kind of interesting in context of PC, but not more. Read the wikipedia article you linked. The very first sentence talks about race as a social construct, and goes on to explain that it is a biological concept no longer used for humans . You'll find an article about that in every language, that does not imply the same usage. You won't find the idea of different races between humans in media or official forms in many countries outside of the US, according to my experience – which does not really mean you will find it nowhere, of course. Race is in the US used as a stand-in for ethnics. Distinguishing between ethnics you find everywhere, mixing that with the term race you don't. Not if not following Nazi-ideology.

by onli 10y ago

hood_syntax 10y ago

> only US-americans and Nazis Citation needed.

onli 10y ago
Personal experience. Those "race" elements in official forms – and, more so, the use of that word in everyday media speak – I only saw in the US, and they'd be impossible where I come from.
- ihaveajob 10y ago
  That was my initial feeling as well when I moved to the US. But then I learned that it tends to be Democrats that favors such information gathering, because it supports affirmative action, whereas Republicans would generally like to ignore race differences altogether The whole enterprise is flawed anyway. Being Spanish (from Spain), the official definition of Hispanic applies to me, which entitles me to receive special attention that is obviously intended for non-Europeans.

wosos 10y ago

Probably an adblocker is breaking the comments component.

SamBam 10y ago

> Though only US-americans (and Nazis, weird coincidence) think that genetic differences between humans mean that they are of a different race. I don't even know what this comment is supposed to mean. Is it saying that other nations don't subscribe to the notion of "race?" Because that's complete BS, as anyone who has travelled outside of the US would know. Do we bring up apartheid in South Africa? European colonialism, and their views on race? Chinese views on race? Racism in Brazil? Saudi Arabia? Russia? I'm just confused as to what you mean. Here's a simple example: The Wikipedia article on Race (human categorization), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization), has a list of translations in the left column, with something like 60 languages listed. I can only read four others (Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese), but they all say pretty much the same thing as each other. I think any person with any understanding of the subject can agree that scientifically, the categorization of humans into "races" is meaningless and absurd, but this certainly doesn't mean that people all over the world do have this social construct. And most cultures also have a long list of stereotypes and assumptions that they apply to different "races."

onli 10y ago
That's not the core part of my comment, it was a side remark. I think it is kind of interesting in context of PC, but not more. Read the wikipedia article you linked. The very first sentence talks about race as a social construct, and goes on to explain that it is a biological concept no longer used for humans . You'll find an article about that in every language, that does not imply the same usage. You won't find the idea of different races between humans in media or official forms in many countries outside of the US, according to my experience – which does not really mean you will find it nowhere, of course. Race is in the US used as a stand-in for ethnics. Distinguishing between ethnics you find everywhere, mixing that with the term race you don't. Not if not following Nazi-ideology.