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Maybe the censorship team was too young know the significance of the picture. I am guessing average Facebook employee is under 30. Probably younger than that. V

Maybe the censorship team was too young know the significance of the picture. I am guessing average Facebook employee is under 30. Probably younger than that. Vietnam war is over 40 years old, most American students learned about it and knew that picture, but I don't know how much Vietnam war is taught in other countries. It might have been a combination of age and where the person grew up that contributed to deleting the picture?

zelos 10y ago
I doubt it: "A Facebook spokeswoman said: “While we recognise that this photo is iconic, it’s difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance and not others. "
- samfisher83 10y ago
  This is probably after the fact. Did the initial team know.
- r_smart 10y ago
  >it’s difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance and not others. I'm assuming this is just PR, but if not, what a dumb statement. I'm sure there are cases where this might be true, but given the photograph we're talking about, give me a break. You really can't create a distinction between this and most other nude photos? Unless she meant algorithmically. I could see that being a problem.
  - lloyd-christmas 10y ago
    > Unless she meant algorithmically. I could see that being a problem. "The posts would have been reported by a user to Facebook’s community standards team, who would then have made the decision to remove them, rather than being removed automatically by algorithm."
  - vidarh 10y ago
    And that justifies the initial removals. It does not justify not having an effective appeals method to someone who isn't just blindly applying their rules, and a means of white-listing things that have been approved once. This is not a new problem that they've never been exposed to before.
Broken_Hippo 10y ago
"Most American students learned about it and knew that picture..." I'm 38: We didn't learn much about the Vietnam war, honestly. The sections on everything from the 50's onward were very short, and sometimes glossed over due to time constraints. I think we had one teacher tell us that it was simply because not enough time had passed since it happened, which always seemed ridiculous to me. It is kinda like we knew it happened, but didn't really learn much about it formally. Lots of heresay and rumors and things.
- pwg 10y ago
  49 here, and High-school history class 'finished' not much past WWII/Korean War era. Very little if any touching of the Vietnam war. And at that time it was the same reason. End of school year arrived, and that was as far forward in time as the teacher had achieved. And so that was that.
  - pmontra 10y ago
    I'm 48, Italy, and I know about the Vietnam War but not because of school. Same problems you experienced. I have few memories of it from TV news back then. I remember katyusha missile launchers firing and general happiness when the war was over. But many movies kept remembering everybody about that war. I read books, visited the memorial in Washington when I was there on vacation. I browsed wikipedia in the last years. I studied many wars at school (European history is pretty long) but I know less about most of them than about the Vietnam War. It's pretty easy to get informed even if school didn't care much about that war when we were little. Same about the Korean War.
- samfisher83 10y ago
  If you took AP history they went through Regan.
  - ClashTheBunny 10y ago
    What year?

zelos 10y ago

I doubt it: "A Facebook spokeswoman said: “While we recognise that this photo is iconic, it’s difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance and not others. "

samfisher83 10y ago
This is probably after the fact. Did the initial team know.
r_smart 10y ago
>it’s difficult to create a distinction between allowing a photograph of a nude child in one instance and not others. I'm assuming this is just PR, but if not, what a dumb statement. I'm sure there are cases where this might be true, but given the photograph we're talking about, give me a break. You really can't create a distinction between this and most other nude photos? Unless she meant algorithmically. I could see that being a problem.
- lloyd-christmas 10y ago
  > Unless she meant algorithmically. I could see that being a problem. "The posts would have been reported by a user to Facebook’s community standards team, who would then have made the decision to remove them, rather than being removed automatically by algorithm."
- vidarh 10y ago
  And that justifies the initial removals. It does not justify not having an effective appeals method to someone who isn't just blindly applying their rules, and a means of white-listing things that have been approved once. This is not a new problem that they've never been exposed to before.

Broken_Hippo 10y ago

"Most American students learned about it and knew that picture..." I'm 38: We didn't learn much about the Vietnam war, honestly. The sections on everything from the 50's onward were very short, and sometimes glossed over due to time constraints. I think we had one teacher tell us that it was simply because not enough time had passed since it happened, which always seemed ridiculous to me. It is kinda like we knew it happened, but didn't really learn much about it formally. Lots of heresay and rumors and things.

pwg 10y ago
49 here, and High-school history class 'finished' not much past WWII/Korean War era. Very little if any touching of the Vietnam war. And at that time it was the same reason. End of school year arrived, and that was as far forward in time as the teacher had achieved. And so that was that.
- pmontra 10y ago
  I'm 48, Italy, and I know about the Vietnam War but not because of school. Same problems you experienced. I have few memories of it from TV news back then. I remember katyusha missile launchers firing and general happiness when the war was over. But many movies kept remembering everybody about that war. I read books, visited the memorial in Washington when I was there on vacation. I browsed wikipedia in the last years. I studied many wars at school (European history is pretty long) but I know less about most of them than about the Vietnam War. It's pretty easy to get informed even if school didn't care much about that war when we were little. Same about the Korean War.
samfisher83 10y ago
If you took AP history they went through Regan.
- ClashTheBunny 10y ago
  What year?