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Sure. But what is the maximum possible damage from a burning battery? Even if you managed to burn through a window, that'd be highly unlikely to down a modern a

Sure. But what is the maximum possible damage from a burning battery? Even if you managed to burn through a window, that'd be highly unlikely to down a modern airliner.

coldtea 10y ago
>* But what is the maximum possible damage from a burning battery?* As opposed to the one from bottled water?
- CannisterFlux 10y ago
  Airports around the world must make a fortune selling bottled water. That rule is never going away no matter how stupid it is :-(
  - kevinmgranger 10y ago
    I've yet to step foot in an airport that didn't have water fountains, and won't let you take an empty reusable bottle through security. There's no need to buy bottled water.
    - cozzyd 10y ago
      I don't remember any fountains in the Warsaw airport.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        The exception that proves the rule (else it wouldn't be a rule, but a universal law that goes without saying)... http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=26895 http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=26895
      - JadeNB 10y ago
        Heathrow, too, the last time I was there—though it was a long time ago. (I actually asked.)
    - CannisterFlux 10y ago
      I take empty bottles always, but most airports have no fountains and only hot water in the bathrooms.
- jbb555 10y ago
  I think the point is that it might not water...
  - coldtea 10y ago
    In that case your "small toothpaste" (which is allowed) might not be that either. And you can always dilute it in your air-hostess delivered water if you're so inclined and you just need to have your poison/whatever in liquid form...
    - x1798DE 10y ago
      The threat they are trying to guard against is binary liquid explosives, where you mix two liquids to make a bomb, so volume does matter. Of course, it's a idiotic way to accomplish their goal anyway, but their goal is idiotic anyway, so it's all security theater anyway.
      - jsymolon 10y ago
        > binary explosives ... Please, what a frigging joke. Be cooped up in a small bumpy space for hours trying to create a very touchy explosive. ... hydrogen peroxide, acetone, and sulfuric acid ... put a beaker containing the peroxide / acetone mixture into the ice water bath (Champagne bucket), and start adding the acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly. Watch the reaction temperature carefully. The mixture will heat, and if it gets too hot, you'll end up with a weak explosive. In fact, if it gets really hot, you'll get a premature explosion possibly sufficient to kill you, but probably no one else. After a few hours - assuming, by some miracle, that the fumes haven't overcome you or alerted passengers or the flight crew to your activities - you'll have a quantity of TATP with which to carry out your mission. Now all you need to do is dry it for an hour or two.
        fucking_tragedy 10y ago
        I hope you like lists.
        10y ago

Sure. But what is the maximum possible damage from a burning battery? Even if you managed to burn through a window, that'd be highly unlikely to down a modern airliner.

coldtea 10y ago

>* But what is the maximum possible damage from a burning battery?* As opposed to the one from bottled water?

CannisterFlux 10y ago
Airports around the world must make a fortune selling bottled water. That rule is never going away no matter how stupid it is :-(
- kevinmgranger 10y ago
  I've yet to step foot in an airport that didn't have water fountains, and won't let you take an empty reusable bottle through security. There's no need to buy bottled water.
  - cozzyd 10y ago
    I don't remember any fountains in the Warsaw airport.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      The exception that proves the rule (else it wouldn't be a rule, but a universal law that goes without saying)... http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=26895 http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=26895
    - JadeNB 10y ago
      Heathrow, too, the last time I was there—though it was a long time ago. (I actually asked.)
  - CannisterFlux 10y ago
    I take empty bottles always, but most airports have no fountains and only hot water in the bathrooms.
jbb555 10y ago
I think the point is that it might not water...
- coldtea 10y ago
  In that case your "small toothpaste" (which is allowed) might not be that either. And you can always dilute it in your air-hostess delivered water if you're so inclined and you just need to have your poison/whatever in liquid form...
  - x1798DE 10y ago
    The threat they are trying to guard against is binary liquid explosives, where you mix two liquids to make a bomb, so volume does matter. Of course, it's a idiotic way to accomplish their goal anyway, but their goal is idiotic anyway, so it's all security theater anyway.
    - jsymolon 10y ago
      > binary explosives ... Please, what a frigging joke. Be cooped up in a small bumpy space for hours trying to create a very touchy explosive. ... hydrogen peroxide, acetone, and sulfuric acid ... put a beaker containing the peroxide / acetone mixture into the ice water bath (Champagne bucket), and start adding the acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly. Watch the reaction temperature carefully. The mixture will heat, and if it gets too hot, you'll end up with a weak explosive. In fact, if it gets really hot, you'll get a premature explosion possibly sufficient to kill you, but probably no one else. After a few hours - assuming, by some miracle, that the fumes haven't overcome you or alerted passengers or the flight crew to your activities - you'll have a quantity of TATP with which to carry out your mission. Now all you need to do is dry it for an hour or two.
      - fucking_tragedy 10y ago
        I hope you like lists.
      - 10y ago