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Thanks! Please note though that I am not American and your experience might be a bit different than mine. Around here nurses and engineers have exactly the sam

Thanks! Please note though that I am not American and your experience might be a bit different than mine. Around here nurses and engineers have exactly the same number of years in school. A veterinarian is two more years I think. Edit: and you are making things worse by saying that being a nurse is an unattractive job.

belorn 10y ago
Not an American also, as my view is based on the Swedish work market and culture. When I say nurse is a less desired job, I mean that in the number of student applications and average grade requirements. That is not to say that nurse profession is an unattractive job. It just that all professions are not equally desired, and statistics on student choice and student competition reflects that. Btw, nurse profession in Sweden is commonly 3 years, which is common for hands on professions like welders, plumbers, painters, musicians, carpenters and so on. Engineering is commonly 4 years, similar to veterinarian. Its the difference between master degree and bachelor's degree. I do not think its a major leap that professions with master degree requirements is generally considered to be more desired, has generally a higher pay rate, and is generally fought over more harshly. As such, comparing two professions with master degree requirements makes more sense.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  In Norway next to Sweden, nurse is three years "høgskole" after three years "videregående". Same goes for engineer (except "sivilingeniør" which is another two years on top of that). Welder or carpenter is two years of "videregående" and then 2 (or more?) years as apprentice. So Nurse or engineer: 6 years study. Welder, carpenter etc: 2 years study + 2 years as apprentice.
  - belorn 10y ago
    > engineer (except "sivilingeniør Civil, which stands for civilian, is in contrast with the other form of engineer which is military engineer. Maybe you are thinking of technician and not engineer. That is 4 years in Sweden, with 2 additional years to make it to technician specialist or civil engineer within a specialist area. Engineer, medical doctors and specialists: 6 years or higher. Nurse, technicians, plumbers, and the vast majority of professions covered under higher education: 4 years. "yrekshögskola (YH)": 2 years or less. The title of this discussion is "ask a female engineer", not "ask a female technician". My initial statement stands that we should compare master degree professions with other master degree professions, and bachelor's degree professions with other bachelor's degree professions. Further more, looking for similar educational requirements within each group would further narrow down suitable professions to compare.
    - reitanqild 10y ago
      For some reason I know a bit about Norwegian education and engineering degrees especially. ;-) The degree I'm talking about is the Norwegian "høgskoleingeniør" which typically gives you a Bachelors degree, "sivilingeniør" is typically a Masters study. The nurse study also gives you a Bachelors degree in Norway (and can be used as a foundation for the midwife study which typically gives a masters degree as well IIRC.)

belorn 10y ago

Not an American also, as my view is based on the Swedish work market and culture. When I say nurse is a less desired job, I mean that in the number of student applications and average grade requirements. That is not to say that nurse profession is an unattractive job. It just that all professions are not equally desired, and statistics on student choice and student competition reflects that. Btw, nurse profession in Sweden is commonly 3 years, which is common for hands on professions like welders, plumbers, painters, musicians, carpenters and so on. Engineering is commonly 4 years, similar to veterinarian. Its the difference between master degree and bachelor's degree. I do not think its a major leap that professions with master degree requirements is generally considered to be more desired, has generally a higher pay rate, and is generally fought over more harshly. As such, comparing two professions with master degree requirements makes more sense.

reitanqild 10y ago
In Norway next to Sweden, nurse is three years "høgskole" after three years "videregående". Same goes for engineer (except "sivilingeniør" which is another two years on top of that). Welder or carpenter is two years of "videregående" and then 2 (or more?) years as apprentice. So Nurse or engineer: 6 years study. Welder, carpenter etc: 2 years study + 2 years as apprentice.
- belorn 10y ago
  > engineer (except "sivilingeniør Civil, which stands for civilian, is in contrast with the other form of engineer which is military engineer. Maybe you are thinking of technician and not engineer. That is 4 years in Sweden, with 2 additional years to make it to technician specialist or civil engineer within a specialist area. Engineer, medical doctors and specialists: 6 years or higher. Nurse, technicians, plumbers, and the vast majority of professions covered under higher education: 4 years. "yrekshögskola (YH)": 2 years or less. The title of this discussion is "ask a female engineer", not "ask a female technician". My initial statement stands that we should compare master degree professions with other master degree professions, and bachelor's degree professions with other bachelor's degree professions. Further more, looking for similar educational requirements within each group would further narrow down suitable professions to compare.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    For some reason I know a bit about Norwegian education and engineering degrees especially. ;-) The degree I'm talking about is the Norwegian "høgskoleingeniør" which typically gives you a Bachelors degree, "sivilingeniør" is typically a Masters study. The nurse study also gives you a Bachelors degree in Norway (and can be used as a foundation for the midwife study which typically gives a masters degree as well IIRC.)