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And BBC is a propaganda outlet for UK government and CNN is an outlet for US propaganda. I fail to see your point.

by Jerry2 10y ago

kombucha2 10y ago
Correct to some extent (the same can be said of Al Jazeera) but they do have a quite bit more integrity and can be trusted with many more topics with much more ease than RT. To be fair I vet news from those sources as well. But painting both CNN and BBC with the same broad stroke as RT is being disingenuous. RT is on a whole other level of fud. Don't trust the BBC/CNN/Al Jazeera on domestic affairs from within their own countries but RT can't be trusted with anything.
helthanatos 10y ago
Well, CNN is propaganda for the left in the US, that is certainly true. CNN spins stories in ways that make them kind of true, but objectively not. They like to add drama into stories that aren't very dramatic and news that may or may not be true. Some parts of CNN are objective and some parts aren't.
- throwaway2016a 10y ago
  I don't know why he got down-voted. We do have partisan news outlets that often act as propaganda machines for the party. Fox for the republicans. CNN for the democrats. Fox Business News oddly enough for the libertarians. Although, I do say that Fox is by far worse than CNN and this coming from an independent who has voted Republican before. Fox pundits are notorious for bending the truth.
  - hackuser 10y ago
    CNN is not Democratic; for example, they hired Trump's former campaign manager. MSNBC is a Dem/Left/Progressive outlet.
    - throwaway2016a 10y ago
      Point taken. I don't watch either station so I was making an accuracy assumption about the post I was replying to. I don't watch Fox either but I unfortunately have relatives that often put it on when I visit. I think they believe the brainwashing will eventually convert me from my evil liberal Libertarian ways.[1] [1] Thinking Libertarians are liberal is amusing in itself, people don't know what to do with a party that has both liberal and conservative views And now I prepare for the down votes.
hackuser 10y ago
> And BBC is a propaganda outlet for UK government and CNN is an outlet for US propaganda. I disagree. Unless we say 'no news is 100% free of propaganda, therefore all are equivalent propaganda outlets', which of course is silly. It's like saying, 'no code is bug-free, therefore the quality of all code is equivalently flawed.' The UK and U.S. governments and societies have very different attitudes toward independent news than Russia, and the results are evident. That doesn't mean I'm not skeptical and BBC and CNN don't have their flaws, but there is no equivalency.

And BBC is a propaganda outlet for UK government and CNN is an outlet for US propaganda. I fail to see your point.

by Jerry2 10y ago

And BBC is a propaganda outlet for UK government and CNN is an outlet for US propaganda. I fail to see your point.

Correct to some extent (the same can be said of Al Jazeera) but they do have a quite bit more integrity and can be trusted with many more topics with much more ease than RT. To be fair I vet news from those sources as well. But painting both CNN and BBC with the same broad stroke as RT is being disingenuous. RT is on a whole other level of fud. Don't trust the BBC/CNN/Al Jazeera on domestic affairs from within their own countries but RT can't be trusted with anything.

helthanatos 10y ago

Well, CNN is propaganda for the left in the US, that is certainly true. CNN spins stories in ways that make them kind of true, but objectively not. They like to add drama into stories that aren't very dramatic and news that may or may not be true. Some parts of CNN are objective and some parts aren't.

throwaway2016a 10y ago
I don't know why he got down-voted. We do have partisan news outlets that often act as propaganda machines for the party. Fox for the republicans. CNN for the democrats. Fox Business News oddly enough for the libertarians. Although, I do say that Fox is by far worse than CNN and this coming from an independent who has voted Republican before. Fox pundits are notorious for bending the truth.
- hackuser 10y ago
  CNN is not Democratic; for example, they hired Trump's former campaign manager. MSNBC is a Dem/Left/Progressive outlet.
  - throwaway2016a 10y ago
    Point taken. I don't watch either station so I was making an accuracy assumption about the post I was replying to. I don't watch Fox either but I unfortunately have relatives that often put it on when I visit. I think they believe the brainwashing will eventually convert me from my evil liberal Libertarian ways.[1] [1] Thinking Libertarians are liberal is amusing in itself, people don't know what to do with a party that has both liberal and conservative views And now I prepare for the down votes.

hackuser 10y ago

> And BBC is a propaganda outlet for UK government and CNN is an outlet for US propaganda. I disagree. Unless we say 'no news is 100% free of propaganda, therefore all are equivalent propaganda outlets', which of course is silly. It's like saying, 'no code is bug-free, therefore the quality of all code is equivalently flawed.' The UK and U.S. governments and societies have very different attitudes toward independent news than Russia, and the results are evident. That doesn't mean I'm not skeptical and BBC and CNN don't have their flaws, but there is no equivalency.