I go by "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I'm sure some are in it for personal gain (maybe even on bout sides), and

I go by "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I'm sure some are in it for personal gain (maybe even on bout sides), and that some are in it for actual social benefit (India comes to mind). But in general, no. It's just the usual chatter about social themes. edit: Just to note, i find this here thread OK (but wish there were more actual engineering questions).