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It is a good analogy. During WWII the soviet red army got smashed at the beginning by the germans, and was in retread (lost a lot of men and equipment). Milli

by ardit33 19y ago

It is a good analogy. During WWII the soviet red army got smashed at the beginning by the germans, and was in retread (lost a lot of men and equipment). Millions of soldiers were captured. Hitler gave the order to summary execute all commanders and communist members found in each unit. Meanwhile, Stalin, pissed at the poor performance of its army, gave order to execute all the commanders who retreated, or their units gave up to the germans. Giving up, ment certain death, retreating ment execution, so the red army commanders; from simple captains, to even generals, were left with literally one choice: Fight to their death. At the end, we all know who won the war.

mynameishere 19y ago
If the red army hadn't retreated initially it would have been annihilated. Again, an essential strategy.
run4yourlives 19y ago
That's a piss poor understanding of history. The only thing that turned the tide of the war for the Russians was winter. Stalin's kill 'em all approach had virtually no effect on the performance of his army. In fact, Hitler's fight 'til the death orders ended up being laughed at my German commanders. When you're a nazi choosing to surrender to Stalin's red army, you understand the true meaning of death.
- ardit33 19y ago
  "That's a piss poor understanding of history. The only thing that turned the tide of the war for the Russians was winter. Stalin's kill 'em all approach had virtually no effect on the performance of his army. " First of all, your "That's a piss poor understanding of history." is a pretty crappy comment for a forum like this that wants to stay civil. I hope you choose better wording and are not like this with your friends, and colleagues. Second, attributing the defeat of nazis to weather, is trivalizing the whole history. I am not saying Stalin's orders to not surrender won the war, but it was a huge factor on the battle field, while you say it had no effect. BBC - The Battle For Russia http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1971071 http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1971071 The nazis caught almost 2 million soviet prisoners in the first part of the war. Imagine those people actually haven't given up, but fought to death, then the outnumbered nazi machine would have never reached so close to Moscow (16 miles). One of the reason, after the war, a lot of ex-soviet prisoners, were treated really bad, almost as traitors.

by ardit33 19y ago

mynameishere 19y ago

If the red army hadn't retreated initially it would have been annihilated. Again, an essential strategy.

run4yourlives 19y ago

That's a piss poor understanding of history. The only thing that turned the tide of the war for the Russians was winter. Stalin's kill 'em all approach had virtually no effect on the performance of his army. In fact, Hitler's fight 'til the death orders ended up being laughed at my German commanders. When you're a nazi choosing to surrender to Stalin's red army, you understand the true meaning of death.

ardit33 19y ago
"That's a piss poor understanding of history. The only thing that turned the tide of the war for the Russians was winter. Stalin's kill 'em all approach had virtually no effect on the performance of his army. " First of all, your "That's a piss poor understanding of history." is a pretty crappy comment for a forum like this that wants to stay civil. I hope you choose better wording and are not like this with your friends, and colleagues. Second, attributing the defeat of nazis to weather, is trivalizing the whole history. I am not saying Stalin's orders to not surrender won the war, but it was a huge factor on the battle field, while you say it had no effect. BBC - The Battle For Russia http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1971071 http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1971071 The nazis caught almost 2 million soviet prisoners in the first part of the war. Imagine those people actually haven't given up, but fought to death, then the outnumbered nazi machine would have never reached so close to Moscow (16 miles). One of the reason, after the war, a lot of ex-soviet prisoners, were treated really bad, almost as traitors.