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One of the other groups is pursuing this (and electronic voting). I think that's the right long term solution!

by sama 10y ago

specialist 10y ago
Disagree with you on electronic voting. I know a little bit about this one. There is no way to both protect the secret ballot and ensure a public vote count. Can't be done. And most systems (proposed, hypothetical, existing) don't do either.
- rhallie11 10y ago
  I also disagree with electronic voting, but am a huge supporter of: - automatic registration - election days as (paid!) holidays - national no-restrictions on requesting absentee (some states require you to vote in-person unless you have a reason explaining why you literally can't)
  - specialist 10y ago
    Getting really into the weeds here... While I agree with everything you just said, I also know there's only two sure-fire ways to increase participation: #1 Peer pressure Things like vote.org will help if they close the loop by showing to your peers (bragging rights) that you've voted. #2 Competitive races Competitive races require fixes to our gerrymandering and incumbency protection. Maximally competitive districts (totally doable), public financing (will happen sooner or later), proportional voting (tough sell).
  - rhallie11 10y ago
    > #1 Peer pressure Things like vote.org will help if they close the loop by showing to your peers (bragging rights) that you've voted. Yeah, I defs remember remember reading about a group that sent out a list of everyone in your neighborhood who voted in past elections with an add-on like, "Make sure you're on this list next year", and they got a whole lot of people registered. I also heard Facebook's "I voted" status-maker increased turnout last time around
  - icebraining 10y ago
    Why do you disagree with electronic voting if you support mass absentee voting, which (AFAIK) has the same problems?
specialist 10y ago
I should have asked: if its public, which of your groups is working on universal, automatic registration? I know Brennan Center, Pew Trusts, ACLU and others have been working this for a while now.

One of the other groups is pursuing this (and electronic voting). I think that's the right long term solution!

by sama 10y ago

One of the other groups is pursuing this (and electronic voting). I think that's the right long term solution!

Disagree with you on electronic voting. I know a little bit about this one. There is no way to both protect the secret ballot and ensure a public vote count. Can't be done. And most systems (proposed, hypothetical, existing) don't do either.

rhallie11 10y ago
I also disagree with electronic voting, but am a huge supporter of: - automatic registration - election days as (paid!) holidays - national no-restrictions on requesting absentee (some states require you to vote in-person unless you have a reason explaining why you literally can't)
- specialist 10y ago
  Getting really into the weeds here... While I agree with everything you just said, I also know there's only two sure-fire ways to increase participation: #1 Peer pressure Things like vote.org will help if they close the loop by showing to your peers (bragging rights) that you've voted. #2 Competitive races Competitive races require fixes to our gerrymandering and incumbency protection. Maximally competitive districts (totally doable), public financing (will happen sooner or later), proportional voting (tough sell).
- rhallie11 10y ago
  > #1 Peer pressure Things like vote.org will help if they close the loop by showing to your peers (bragging rights) that you've voted. Yeah, I defs remember remember reading about a group that sent out a list of everyone in your neighborhood who voted in past elections with an add-on like, "Make sure you're on this list next year", and they got a whole lot of people registered. I also heard Facebook's "I voted" status-maker increased turnout last time around
- icebraining 10y ago
  Why do you disagree with electronic voting if you support mass absentee voting, which (AFAIK) has the same problems?

specialist 10y ago

I should have asked: if its public, which of your groups is working on universal, automatic registration? I know Brennan Center, Pew Trusts, ACLU and others have been working this for a while now.