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It was courageous to make a leap of faith and all that but not so courageous when it is at 160$. It's just ridiculous. Waiting for Xiaomi to show their courage

It was courageous to make a leap of faith and all that but not so courageous when it is at 160$. It's just ridiculous. Waiting for Xiaomi to show their courage at 20$

ebbv 10y ago
Everyone keeps making this point but I don't get it? It's not like the AirPods are required. They are including Lightning EarPods and an adapter in the box for $0.
- yoz-y 10y ago
  Also there will be Beats headphones available for less and probably tons of other headphones from other makers that will follow suit.
  - ghshephard 10y ago
    Aren't they just bluetooth headphones? Given the airpods are backwards compatible, I just assumed they were vanilla bluetooth. Can't the hundreds (thousands?) of ones that already exist just pair with the iPhone?
    - yoz-y 10y ago
      Apple has made their own Wireless implementation on top of bluetooth using their W1 chip. They said they will be putting it into the airpods and three new Beats headsets. I wonder what is it actually doing though. It is not impossible that the bluetooth is used as a fallback mechanism for backwards compatibility.
      - ghshephard 10y ago
        Gruber makes it clear, http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/08/airpods-hands-on http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/08/airpods-hands-on, the only thing proprietary is the pairing between the iPhone and Airpods with the case. Other than that, these are just plain bluetooth headphones. They will work fine with other devices, and other devices will work fine with the iPhone 7. The W1 chips is just a bluetooth chip designed by Apple.
- andrewvijay 10y ago
  Absolutely. But it feels good to pull Apple's leg in someway or the other.
- elmigranto 10y ago
  > for $0 It's not actually 0, you pay for everything, including a paper instructions are printed at. It just so happens everything's consolidated under a single position in the receipt reading "iPhone". And I would think 3.5mm EarPods are somewhat cheaper than lightning ones.
  - throwanem 10y ago
    Considering that the phone runs seven hundred bucks, it might as well be zero. The phrase "penny wise, pound foolish" fairly somersaults to the tip of one's tongue, doesn't it?
  - ebbv 10y ago
    They didn't raise the price of the iPhone. It's the same as it was last year. It's $0.
rimantas 10y ago
Will those $20 headphones switch seamlessly between devices, stop playing when not in the ear, have beam forming microphones, charging container, charge for 3hours in 15 minutes?
- kyriakos 10y ago
  Probably that and more. Xiaomi is actually really good.
- falcolas 10y ago
  The seamless switching is going to be handled by the devices (thus the comments about pairing being shared via iCloud), not the headphones alone. Beamforming with two microphones creates a plane of enhanced sound, so anything directly in front (or behind) of you will be as enhanced as your voice is. 15 minutes of not having access to your headphones is not a trivially short amount of time, nor is 3 hours a reasonably long amount of time. I've had conference calls and remote coding sessions last longer than that, not to mention music listening periods.
- andrewvijay 10y ago
  They will not do. That's okay though. I can switch off music by myself. Audio quality and ease of use are the only things that matter in head phones for me. And correction: charge was said to be 5 hours in the keynote.
- WayneBro 10y ago
  Probably not. But I bet the $20 pair will work a lot longer than 5 hours per charge. I have wireless headsets that last 20 hours on a charge. 5 measly hours is ridiculous and it makes all those other features "not worth it".
- J5892 10y ago
  No, but they'll sound 10x better, and won't fall out of my ears every time a soft breeze grazes my head.

It was courageous to make a leap of faith and all that but not so courageous when it is at 160$. It's just ridiculous. Waiting for Xiaomi to show their courage at 20$

ebbv 10y ago

Everyone keeps making this point but I don't get it? It's not like the AirPods are required. They are including Lightning EarPods and an adapter in the box for $0.

yoz-y 10y ago
Also there will be Beats headphones available for less and probably tons of other headphones from other makers that will follow suit.
- ghshephard 10y ago
  Aren't they just bluetooth headphones? Given the airpods are backwards compatible, I just assumed they were vanilla bluetooth. Can't the hundreds (thousands?) of ones that already exist just pair with the iPhone?
  - yoz-y 10y ago
    Apple has made their own Wireless implementation on top of bluetooth using their W1 chip. They said they will be putting it into the airpods and three new Beats headsets. I wonder what is it actually doing though. It is not impossible that the bluetooth is used as a fallback mechanism for backwards compatibility.
    - ghshephard 10y ago
      Gruber makes it clear, http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/08/airpods-hands-on http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/08/airpods-hands-on, the only thing proprietary is the pairing between the iPhone and Airpods with the case. Other than that, these are just plain bluetooth headphones. They will work fine with other devices, and other devices will work fine with the iPhone 7. The W1 chips is just a bluetooth chip designed by Apple.
andrewvijay 10y ago
Absolutely. But it feels good to pull Apple's leg in someway or the other.
elmigranto 10y ago
> for $0 It's not actually 0, you pay for everything, including a paper instructions are printed at. It just so happens everything's consolidated under a single position in the receipt reading "iPhone". And I would think 3.5mm EarPods are somewhat cheaper than lightning ones.
- throwanem 10y ago
  Considering that the phone runs seven hundred bucks, it might as well be zero. The phrase "penny wise, pound foolish" fairly somersaults to the tip of one's tongue, doesn't it?
- ebbv 10y ago
  They didn't raise the price of the iPhone. It's the same as it was last year. It's $0.

rimantas 10y ago

Will those $20 headphones switch seamlessly between devices, stop playing when not in the ear, have beam forming microphones, charging container, charge for 3hours in 15 minutes?

kyriakos 10y ago
Probably that and more. Xiaomi is actually really good.
falcolas 10y ago
The seamless switching is going to be handled by the devices (thus the comments about pairing being shared via iCloud), not the headphones alone. Beamforming with two microphones creates a plane of enhanced sound, so anything directly in front (or behind) of you will be as enhanced as your voice is. 15 minutes of not having access to your headphones is not a trivially short amount of time, nor is 3 hours a reasonably long amount of time. I've had conference calls and remote coding sessions last longer than that, not to mention music listening periods.
andrewvijay 10y ago
They will not do. That's okay though. I can switch off music by myself. Audio quality and ease of use are the only things that matter in head phones for me. And correction: charge was said to be 5 hours in the keynote.
WayneBro 10y ago
Probably not. But I bet the $20 pair will work a lot longer than 5 hours per charge. I have wireless headsets that last 20 hours on a charge. 5 measly hours is ridiculous and it makes all those other features "not worth it".
J5892 10y ago
No, but they'll sound 10x better, and won't fall out of my ears every time a soft breeze grazes my head.