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Absolutely agree- however, in many cases these types of companies can still be decent businesses. Being able to work with and adjust "moderately complex" Excel

Absolutely agree- however, in many cases these types of companies can still be decent businesses. Being able to work with and adjust "moderately complex" Excel sheets requires a certain level of training and skill- often these startups can remove the requirement for expertise to perform a task, which can be worth quite a bit to a business.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility. That moderately complicated spreadsheet can and does change all the time, to accomodate new requirements and optimize workflow. A startup (or the internal IT department) doing one-size-fits-all solution can't really do that.
- elmigranto 10y ago
  > The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility This is probably its biggest flaw also — chances are you don't need all that flexibility within a scope of particular spreadsheet; and sometime you may prefer a solution that was specifically targetting this exact usecase.
- emodendroket 10y ago
  Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible, and yet nobody says they don't need software because they have all the tools to implement its functionality themselves. In fact, I worked on a project that largely aimed to replace a bunch of internal spreadsheets because giving groups a spreadsheet to maintain is a little like handing Phaeton the reins to Apollo's chariot.
  - TeMPOraL 10y ago
    Sure a programming language would be even more flexible, but it does not have an instant feedback loop like Excel does. Not to mention that the extra flexibility comes with the cost of dealing with all the arcane bullshit programming involves - toolchains, APIs, what have you. Excel is flexible enough to be useful by non-tech people and doesn't bring in so much cruft.
    - emodendroket 10y ago
      My intent was to highlight the flaws of the argument that Excel is better because it is more flexible with a more extreme example.
  - ChoHag 10y ago
    > Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible Then it's convenient that Excel both is a and has a programming language, eh?

TeMPOraL 10y ago

The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility. That moderately complicated spreadsheet can and does change all the time, to accomodate new requirements and optimize workflow. A startup (or the internal IT department) doing one-size-fits-all solution can't really do that.

elmigranto 10y ago
> The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility This is probably its biggest flaw also — chances are you don't need all that flexibility within a scope of particular spreadsheet; and sometime you may prefer a solution that was specifically targetting this exact usecase.
emodendroket 10y ago
Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible, and yet nobody says they don't need software because they have all the tools to implement its functionality themselves. In fact, I worked on a project that largely aimed to replace a bunch of internal spreadsheets because giving groups a spreadsheet to maintain is a little like handing Phaeton the reins to Apollo's chariot.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  Sure a programming language would be even more flexible, but it does not have an instant feedback loop like Excel does. Not to mention that the extra flexibility comes with the cost of dealing with all the arcane bullshit programming involves - toolchains, APIs, what have you. Excel is flexible enough to be useful by non-tech people and doesn't bring in so much cruft.
  - emodendroket 10y ago
    My intent was to highlight the flaws of the argument that Excel is better because it is more flexible with a more extreme example.
- ChoHag 10y ago
  > Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible Then it's convenient that Excel both is a and has a programming language, eh?