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Google Program to Deradicalize Jihadis Will Be Used for American Extremists Next

11 points by etiam 10y ago

etiam 10y ago
Apologies for the mangled title here. The original is much too long to fit in the HN limit, and removing "American" instead of "Right-Wing" isn't enough to solve that. The fact that Google and by extension its resources is involved seems like important context, so I'm not inclined to remove that part. If someone has a better solution I invite changing it.
- ThrustVectoring 10y ago
  The "next" is redundant, and there are shorter words than "extremists". "will be used for American extremists next" can get shortened slightly to "will be used on the American hard-right". If it fits, you can add back in the "next" on the end.
wamsachel 10y ago
On the Media had a podcast that talked about this: http://www.wnyc.org/story/challenge-fighting-terrorism-online http://www.wnyc.org/story/challenge-fighting-terrorism-onlin... Essentially experts agree that this will do next to nothing to stop individuals from radicalizing. However, I bet that this program will prove to be a useful propaganda tool to be used on everyone else though.
jimmywanger 10y ago
I strongly disagree with this. Private companies probably should not have political agendas. Why don't they use this program against anarchists and Occupy Wall Street extremists? They're focusing specifically on hard right extremists.
- waqf 10y ago
  When you're the size of Google, it's not a question of you being interested in politics: politics is interested in you.
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    What happens then is you kick back. Their motto is "Do no Evil". This is an active act of suppressing views that don't fit their cultural narrative.
cryoshon 10y ago
wildly disagree with this program; it will be used to propagandize the american public further, if it hasn't already. remember that hillary and google are tight. remember that they don't work for you.
- wamsachel 10y ago
  It's kind of interesting to think about the public concern that'd be generated if this article was instead about the government and the New York Times buddying up to use the Time's bestseller book list to deradicalize people. People today can easily grasp the dangers of book censorship and propaganda, so it's alarming and interesting that social media gets such a pass. p.s. I'm not saying that the NYT's bestseller list is free of manipulation, I'm saying they don't openly acknowledge such manipulations to the public.

11 points by etiam 10y ago

etiam 10y ago

Apologies for the mangled title here. The original is much too long to fit in the HN limit, and removing "American" instead of "Right-Wing" isn't enough to solve that. The fact that Google and by extension its resources is involved seems like important context, so I'm not inclined to remove that part. If someone has a better solution I invite changing it.

ThrustVectoring 10y ago
The "next" is redundant, and there are shorter words than "extremists". "will be used for American extremists next" can get shortened slightly to "will be used on the American hard-right". If it fits, you can add back in the "next" on the end.

wamsachel 10y ago

On the Media had a podcast that talked about this: http://www.wnyc.org/story/challenge-fighting-terrorism-online http://www.wnyc.org/story/challenge-fighting-terrorism-onlin... Essentially experts agree that this will do next to nothing to stop individuals from radicalizing. However, I bet that this program will prove to be a useful propaganda tool to be used on everyone else though.

jimmywanger 10y ago

I strongly disagree with this. Private companies probably should not have political agendas. Why don't they use this program against anarchists and Occupy Wall Street extremists? They're focusing specifically on hard right extremists.

waqf 10y ago
When you're the size of Google, it's not a question of you being interested in politics: politics is interested in you.
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  What happens then is you kick back. Their motto is "Do no Evil". This is an active act of suppressing views that don't fit their cultural narrative.

cryoshon 10y ago

wildly disagree with this program; it will be used to propagandize the american public further, if it hasn't already. remember that hillary and google are tight. remember that they don't work for you.

wamsachel 10y ago
It's kind of interesting to think about the public concern that'd be generated if this article was instead about the government and the New York Times buddying up to use the Time's bestseller book list to deradicalize people. People today can easily grasp the dangers of book censorship and propaganda, so it's alarming and interesting that social media gets such a pass. p.s. I'm not saying that the NYT's bestseller list is free of manipulation, I'm saying they don't openly acknowledge such manipulations to the public.