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> The software platform Apple has built is unrivaled. Not really true anymore. Android (while drinking Google Koolaid) is an amazing platform. I bet for most u

> The software platform Apple has built is unrivaled. Not really true anymore. Android (while drinking Google Koolaid) is an amazing platform. I bet for most users (in terms of apps and basic phone features), there is really no justification to get an iPhone over an Android.

serge2k 10y ago
I used an android up until the iPhone 6 came out. iOS is just a better platform.
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  By what comparison? Security? Being able to browse for files? Ability to back up SMS messages? Updates?
  - SalimoS 10y ago
    Simple of use ?? I don't think I need to browse for files on smartphone! Guess talking about security need he's own thread(like, guess your phone maker pushed the last patch created by Google , you know:Stagefright) Sums backup we don't need it , we have iMessage And we can't have a company that create a new message and video chat app every eye are and two But seriously are talking about OS updates ?? Seriously? I'm still using my iPhone 4S on iOS 9
  - riotdash 10y ago
    Security on iOS on lightyears ahead of Android in all aspects and because of the fundamental design of Android it will not change in the near future if ever. Other things I might add: efficieny of usage, performance, UX, hardware design, development of software (for us devs), privacy, quality of app store etc.
  - konart 10y ago
    As an ex-Android user and ex-QA guy for some of the Android software: by the "things work as they should (i.e. as you expect them to work), without lags or bugs that can drive you mad". One of my ex-collegues is now working for one of the android-phone manufactures and by his words the whole process of creating the the new device is basically trying make shit work good enough to pass Google's tests (something is going wrong with hardware? fuck it, we'll fix it in software later), then releasing a bunch of patches, then new phone, because nobody will ever invest their time into makeing the currect device to work with new Google's test. It just won't.
ryanSrich 10y ago
> Not really true anymore Going to have to disagree. There are no redeeming qualities for Android. From a sloppy, disjointed user experience to an incredibly shady app store, Android doesn't compare to iOS. That's not to say iOS doesn't have issues. It certainly does, but in terms of comparability it's not even a contest. Luckily for Android many people really don't care about design.
- exception_e 10y ago
  I agree the app store isn't "vetted" like the iOS app store, but some would call that a feature (quicker to get apps out the door / rely on "crowdsourced" user ratings and comments to become educated on quality). As for your comment on user experience/design, I realize we're entering the realm of subjectivity here. All I can say is the latest Androids are _beautiful_ with Material Design.
- khedoros 10y ago
  I use both every day (work+personal phones), and I come down on the opposite side. My Android does everything I want out of a pocket computer, and the iPhone doesn't. If I don't like the UX of one app, the next one I try will almost certainly be better. I like multiple app stores, and multiple vendors to buy apps from. I like downloading program source and building an apk from it. I like having a terminal app and a file manager. I like running an ssh server to get files on/off the phone. I like using the phone as an oversized USB flash drive, and not having to install a vendor's software to do it (and not caring which OS I'm booted into at the time). iOS is pretty, well-thought-out, performant, predictable, and the best ecosystem on it isn't produced by a tarted-up advertising firm. It has a lot to recommend it...but I'll still take the tangled nest of features over the carefully pruned garden, because I don't always agree with the decisions of the gardener, and I like to have other options.
  - throwanem 10y ago
    > My Android does everything I want out of a pocket computer, and the iPhone doesn't. That's very reasonable. Conversely, my iPhone does everything I want out of a pocket phone, and the Androids I've tried have not. A sysadmin buddy of mine thinks it's awesome that, when a process spins out of control and pegs his phone's CPU, he can drop right into a root shell and kill it from top. I think it's awesome that in five years and two iPhone models, that's not something I've ever needed to think about doing. Different strokes.
freddyc 10y ago
Agreed. I was staunchly anti-Android until I was given a Nexus 6P last year and alternated between it and my 6S for a couple of months before finally ditching the 6S altogether. A lot of it comes down to personal preference of course, but I found the Android system to be more intuitive and overall a better experience (by a whisker).
ubernostrum 10y ago
Android (while drinking Google Koolaid) is an amazing platform. Android's great. You just have to spend an incredible amount of time researching the gigantic ecosystem and all the permutations of hardware and software to figure out which phone actually has the combination of good/responsive enough hardware, support for things you want to do, and comes with a recent version of the OS and magic proprietary Google bits. Then once you've put in the time doing that, the ecosystem has moved on and the phone that would have been correct to buy when you started now isn't and will probably never be updated again, because in the Android world anything that's been on the market more than three weeks is an ancient obsolete toy. I don't understand why more people don't want to join that ecosystem!
- exception_e 10y ago
  Anecdotal, but my parents (in their late 50s and are not very good with technology) recently went from flip phones to Androids and are already using "OK Google" and a bunch of apps. Android is approachable and slick now a days (and yes I remember when it was utter crap :) )
- lenkite 10y ago
  You don't need to do anything of the sort. You can just blindly go ahead and buy a S7 if you want a iPhone replacement.

serge2k 10y ago

I used an android up until the iPhone 6 came out. iOS is just a better platform.

72deluxe 10y ago
By what comparison? Security? Being able to browse for files? Ability to back up SMS messages? Updates?
- SalimoS 10y ago
  Simple of use ?? I don't think I need to browse for files on smartphone! Guess talking about security need he's own thread(like, guess your phone maker pushed the last patch created by Google , you know:Stagefright) Sums backup we don't need it , we have iMessage And we can't have a company that create a new message and video chat app every eye are and two But seriously are talking about OS updates ?? Seriously? I'm still using my iPhone 4S on iOS 9
- riotdash 10y ago
  Security on iOS on lightyears ahead of Android in all aspects and because of the fundamental design of Android it will not change in the near future if ever. Other things I might add: efficieny of usage, performance, UX, hardware design, development of software (for us devs), privacy, quality of app store etc.
- konart 10y ago
  As an ex-Android user and ex-QA guy for some of the Android software: by the "things work as they should (i.e. as you expect them to work), without lags or bugs that can drive you mad". One of my ex-collegues is now working for one of the android-phone manufactures and by his words the whole process of creating the the new device is basically trying make shit work good enough to pass Google's tests (something is going wrong with hardware? fuck it, we'll fix it in software later), then releasing a bunch of patches, then new phone, because nobody will ever invest their time into makeing the currect device to work with new Google's test. It just won't.

ryanSrich 10y ago

> Not really true anymore Going to have to disagree. There are no redeeming qualities for Android. From a sloppy, disjointed user experience to an incredibly shady app store, Android doesn't compare to iOS. That's not to say iOS doesn't have issues. It certainly does, but in terms of comparability it's not even a contest. Luckily for Android many people really don't care about design.

exception_e 10y ago
I agree the app store isn't "vetted" like the iOS app store, but some would call that a feature (quicker to get apps out the door / rely on "crowdsourced" user ratings and comments to become educated on quality). As for your comment on user experience/design, I realize we're entering the realm of subjectivity here. All I can say is the latest Androids are _beautiful_ with Material Design.
khedoros 10y ago
I use both every day (work+personal phones), and I come down on the opposite side. My Android does everything I want out of a pocket computer, and the iPhone doesn't. If I don't like the UX of one app, the next one I try will almost certainly be better. I like multiple app stores, and multiple vendors to buy apps from. I like downloading program source and building an apk from it. I like having a terminal app and a file manager. I like running an ssh server to get files on/off the phone. I like using the phone as an oversized USB flash drive, and not having to install a vendor's software to do it (and not caring which OS I'm booted into at the time). iOS is pretty, well-thought-out, performant, predictable, and the best ecosystem on it isn't produced by a tarted-up advertising firm. It has a lot to recommend it...but I'll still take the tangled nest of features over the carefully pruned garden, because I don't always agree with the decisions of the gardener, and I like to have other options.
- throwanem 10y ago
  > My Android does everything I want out of a pocket computer, and the iPhone doesn't. That's very reasonable. Conversely, my iPhone does everything I want out of a pocket phone, and the Androids I've tried have not. A sysadmin buddy of mine thinks it's awesome that, when a process spins out of control and pegs his phone's CPU, he can drop right into a root shell and kill it from top. I think it's awesome that in five years and two iPhone models, that's not something I've ever needed to think about doing. Different strokes.

freddyc 10y ago

Agreed. I was staunchly anti-Android until I was given a Nexus 6P last year and alternated between it and my 6S for a couple of months before finally ditching the 6S altogether. A lot of it comes down to personal preference of course, but I found the Android system to be more intuitive and overall a better experience (by a whisker).

ubernostrum 10y ago

Android (while drinking Google Koolaid) is an amazing platform. Android's great. You just have to spend an incredible amount of time researching the gigantic ecosystem and all the permutations of hardware and software to figure out which phone actually has the combination of good/responsive enough hardware, support for things you want to do, and comes with a recent version of the OS and magic proprietary Google bits. Then once you've put in the time doing that, the ecosystem has moved on and the phone that would have been correct to buy when you started now isn't and will probably never be updated again, because in the Android world anything that's been on the market more than three weeks is an ancient obsolete toy. I don't understand why more people don't want to join that ecosystem!

exception_e 10y ago
Anecdotal, but my parents (in their late 50s and are not very good with technology) recently went from flip phones to Androids and are already using "OK Google" and a bunch of apps. Android is approachable and slick now a days (and yes I remember when it was utter crap :) )
lenkite 10y ago
You don't need to do anything of the sort. You can just blindly go ahead and buy a S7 if you want a iPhone replacement.