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> since the dongle can just be treated as an extension to the headphone cable When in use, sure. When not in use, then it becomes an extra item to carry / ke

> since the dongle can just be treated as an extension to the headphone cable When in use, sure. When not in use, then it becomes an extra item to carry / keep around. > the fairly durable Lightning connector (whereas 3.5mm male connectors are often somewhat flimsy) Citation needed. Actually, since the 3.5mm port is deeper, and the 3.5mm jack thicker, physics says the same amount of force would be better spread out via 3.5 connections than via a shorter, thinner connection as Lightning.

eridius 10y ago
> When not in use, then it becomes an extra item to carry / keep around. When not in use, why not just keep it attached to the headphones? > Citation needed. Uhh, personal experience? I've certainly bent my share of 3.5mm plugs, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually bending their lightning cable plug. > […] physics says the same amount of force would be better spread out via 3.5 connections […] This is a specious argument. Physics does not say this at all, because you haven't defined the materials you're working with. If the lightning connector and the 3.5mm plug are made out of the same material, and the 3.5mm plug is completely solid, then you could make this argument. But in my experience 3.5mm plugs are not made out of material that's as durable as the material lightning cable plugs are made from, and 3.5mm plugs also often give the impression of being hollow inside. Sure, you can probably make an extremely durable plug, and I'd guess that more expensive headphones probably have more durable plugs than cheaper headphones, but regardless I don't think you really have to worry about bending your lightning connectors.
- pritambaral 10y ago
  > When not in use, why not just keep it attached to the headphones? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12447431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12447431 > Uhh, personal experience? I've certainly bent my share of 3.5mm plugs, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually bending their lightning cable plug. And in personal experience, I have never once damaged a 3.5mm plug, despite extreme rough use (and I mean the "extreme"). Can't say I have bent / never bent a lightning plug though, since I've never used an iPhone.
  - eridius 10y ago
    If you've never bent either plug, then what are you worried about?
    - pritambaral 10y ago
      1. I've never bent a Lightning plug because I've never used one. 2. I wasn't the one worried. You were, when you said "3.5mm male connectors are often somewhat flimsy".
      - eridius 10y ago
        I wasn't worried; I was making the argument that the lightning connector is more durable (in my experience) than 3.5mm, hence anyone who's satisfied with the durability of a 3.5mm plug (as you seem to be) would have no problems with the durability of the lightning plug. If you're not worried about this, why did you try and argue against it?
        pritambaral 10y ago
        By that logic, I'm not worried either. I just don't agree with your belief that the lightning plug is more durable than 3.5mm. My disagreement with your belief was the argument I was making.

eridius 10y ago

> When not in use, then it becomes an extra item to carry / keep around. When not in use, why not just keep it attached to the headphones? > Citation needed. Uhh, personal experience? I've certainly bent my share of 3.5mm plugs, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually bending their lightning cable plug. > […] physics says the same amount of force would be better spread out via 3.5 connections […] This is a specious argument. Physics does not say this at all, because you haven't defined the materials you're working with. If the lightning connector and the 3.5mm plug are made out of the same material, and the 3.5mm plug is completely solid, then you could make this argument. But in my experience 3.5mm plugs are not made out of material that's as durable as the material lightning cable plugs are made from, and 3.5mm plugs also often give the impression of being hollow inside. Sure, you can probably make an extremely durable plug, and I'd guess that more expensive headphones probably have more durable plugs than cheaper headphones, but regardless I don't think you really have to worry about bending your lightning connectors.

pritambaral 10y ago
> When not in use, why not just keep it attached to the headphones? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12447431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12447431 > Uhh, personal experience? I've certainly bent my share of 3.5mm plugs, but I've yet to hear of anyone actually bending their lightning cable plug. And in personal experience, I have never once damaged a 3.5mm plug, despite extreme rough use (and I mean the "extreme"). Can't say I have bent / never bent a lightning plug though, since I've never used an iPhone.
- eridius 10y ago
  If you've never bent either plug, then what are you worried about?
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    1. I've never bent a Lightning plug because I've never used one. 2. I wasn't the one worried. You were, when you said "3.5mm male connectors are often somewhat flimsy".
    - eridius 10y ago
      I wasn't worried; I was making the argument that the lightning connector is more durable (in my experience) than 3.5mm, hence anyone who's satisfied with the durability of a 3.5mm plug (as you seem to be) would have no problems with the durability of the lightning plug. If you're not worried about this, why did you try and argue against it?
      - pritambaral 10y ago
        By that logic, I'm not worried either. I just don't agree with your belief that the lightning plug is more durable than 3.5mm. My disagreement with your belief was the argument I was making.