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I'm also really excited about this. A lot of people have been distracted by a single issue and are missing some really nice features of this phone. Beyond the
by heartbreak 10y ago
I'm also really excited about this. A lot of people have been distracted by a single issue and are missing some really nice features of this phone.
Beyond the secure enclave, if the haptic home button is anything like the new trackpads, it'll be an amazing feature. One less moving part to break. And the cameras...wow. Finally decent depth of field on the camera that's always in my pocket.
- javajosh 10y agoFinally decent depth of field on the camera that's always in my pocket. Recently I upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy S7. It was about $400 and it has an incredible camera; far better than my old iPhone 5s, and it looks substantially better than the iPhone 6/6s photos I have seen. Plus, it has a headphone jack, microSD support (so nice to be able to upgrade), and a really beautiful screen. Yes, Samsung installed some bloatware but some of it is actually useful (their UI for toggling radios is quite good) Android Kit-Kat is solid. To me, this was Android's first reasonable phone.
- ngrilly 10y agoYes, but is it able to "simulate" depth of field like the software of the new iPhone by combining the image captured by the two lenses?
- dchest 10y agoXiaomi Redmi Pro, launched in July, can do this: http://www.mi.com/en/redmipro/ http://www.mi.com/en/redmipro/
- jra101 10y agoHTC One (M8), launched March 2014 can do this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review/2 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review/2
- dingo_bat 10y agoIt doesn't need to. The natural depth of field of its camera is more than enough. In fact it is too much sometimes.
- ngrilly 10y agoSorry, my comment was ambiguous. I meant "simulate a shallow depth of field". As you noticed, all smartphone cameras naturally have a very deep depth of field.
- dingo_bat 10y agoSorry I meant the depth of field is too shallow in the S7.
- ngrilly 10y agoSeriously? It's theoretically impossible with a such small camera. When you shoot a portrait of someone at 1.5 meters from the camera, is the background blurred (if the background is let's say 4 meters behind the subject)?
- dingo_bat 10y agoYou're right. From 1.5 meters away, there is only a slight blurring of the background. I was mostly referring to the insane bokeh I see in macro photos I take. Found a good example here: http://www.techinsider.io/why-the-s7-camera-is-better-than-iphone-2016-3 http://www.techinsider.io/why-the-s7-camera-is-better-than-i... Search for 'bokeh'.
- ngrilly 10y agoYes, I known what "bokeh" is :-) This is why I was surprised you could get bokeh at a normal range with your smartphone. For macro photos, even with a smartphone, it's inevitable. Thanks for the link to the article.
- jonknee 10y agoYes, your new phone has a better camera than your three year old phone.
- heartbreak 10y agoI had an S2, an S3, and an S4. After trying each one for a month, I reverted to the respective iPhone. Trust me I've tried. I'm sure the S7 is great, and maybe it is the first "reasonable" phone from Samsung, but I have yet to use an iPhone that I didn't like. I have used 3 Samsung phones that were laggy and loaded up with garbage apps.
- Synaesthesia 10y agoThe S6 and S7 have really good cameras, competitive with the iPhone absolutely.
- javajosh 10y agoI'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that! That was really my entire point, that good cameras (with natural DoF) exist outside of Apple.
- reitanqild 10y agoLet me guess you are an iPhone user ;-) iPhone users will always prefer iPhones for something.
- heartbreak 10y agoMy first smartphone was a no-name LG model that ran Android. I upgraded from it to the iPhone and didn't like it. Tried the S2 and reverted and so on.
- reitanqild 10y agoMy S2 was amazing. One of a few phones I actually somehow liked if memory serves me right.
- exclusiv 10y agoI'd be all over the S7, but I don't like the bloatware and they have really slow Android updates don't they?
- mcintyre1994 10y agoIf it actually came with Kitkat then that's 3 major versions behind.
- davidiach 10y agoThat's weird, my work phone is a Samsung S7 Edge and my personal phone is an iPhone 6S. The photos on the iPhone look so much better. The photos on the S7 look like they have been edited with a filter, like on Instagram. The colors don't look like the colors I see when I'm looking at the thing I try to capture. The iPhone does a better job at that.
- ebbv 10y agoYou know it's not very helpful to come into a thread about thing X and say "Well I bought thing Y and I like it a lot." This thread is about thing X. (This goes for people coming into an iPhone thread to endorse their Android phone as well as vice versa.)
- jonlucc 10y agoI think it is absolutely valuable to talk about products in the context of their environment. It happens all the time with software products here; someone will say "Slack makes this change" and people will say, "oh we use X because of Y feature".
- javajosh 10y agoThe grand-parent implied that DoF phone cameras aren't available, but they are. That was my main point. The other stuff was because, well, I was frankly surprised at how good the new Android phones are. I suspect that a lot of iPhone users might not care about Android hardware enough even to consider that it might be competitive. And yet, it is.
- pritambaral 10y ago> Samsung Galaxy S7 > Android Kit-Kat is solid The S7 doesn't ship with Kit-Kat, does it? I think it has always shipped with at least Marshmallow
- tdkl 10y agoHe meant it's solid as KitKat was, before they shipped shitty Lollipop which started a myriad of issues.
- DigitalJack 10y agoI guess this is pedantic, but clearly the haptic actuator is itself a moving part. I take your meaning though, and that there is reason to hope it will work better than the mechanical button. And even if the feedback were to fail, the button might keep working.
- heartbreak 10y agoWell the haptics engine was already there, so I don't consider it an additional moving part.
- kelseydh 10y agoVerge is giving the haptic buttons a big thumbs down: "Another thing I tried: the new home button, which uses a "taptic engine" to give you physical feedback when you press it — it's pressure sensitive too, so it can tell if you really mean to press it or just tap it. And it's awful. On a MacBook trackpad, you get this uncanny feeling that you're actually hitting a button. On the iPhone, the whole bottom of the phone just sort of "kicks." It's not bad haptics like you remember, with weird vibration, it's just a new kind of bad haptics. It doesn't feel like a button at all. It's a bummer." http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/7/12827772/iphone-7-plus-photos-video-hands-on http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/7/12827772/iphone-7-plus-phot...
- urda 10y agoThe Verge is not a source to be taken seriously on any Apple matters. Remember, this is a news website who's Editor-In-Chief had a temper tantrum on twitter after being called out on his poor criticism [1]. [1] http://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet-tantrum/ http://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet...
- WatchDog 10y agoIf it was praise, I would take it with a grain of salt, but the verge has typically been very apple biased in their reporting. Generally I just try and steer clear of it these days. Hopefully anandtech put something out in a while.
- CountHackulus 10y agoMy Nokia N900 from 2009 had decent depth of field and a decent lens. It's nothing really to write home about.