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I guess some people will buy lightning headphones instead of bluetooth, but it should be a small minority.

kennywinker 10y ago
You see the prices on lightning headphones? Cheapest one Apple offers is $150. Searching for best cheap bluetooth headphones finds a bunch clustered around $100. I lose headphones like crazy, and I'm not an audiophile, so my average spend on headphones is under $20
- AlexandrB 10y ago
  I use (and keep) my headphones for years and I am an audiophile. This is a non-starter for me as well. I don't want to buy new $200 headphones after Apple inevitably obsoletes lighting and Bluetooth leaves a lot to be desired in terms of lag, pairing, charging, and audio quality.
  - theshrike79 10y ago
    Apple stuck with the Dock connector for a decade. Lightning will most likely stay for at least that if not longer. Also $200 isn't that expensive when talking about headphones.
    - phinnaeus 10y ago
      Normally headphones come with a connector that is ubiquitous instead of proprietary, though.
    - pritambaral 10y ago
      >> I don't want to buy new $200 headphones > Also $200 isn't that expensive But forcing a $200 purchase is. Your parent already has good headphones they like, has had them for years, and none of those headphones needs replacing because they broke down or are obsoleted. The $200 purchase your parent mentions is because of Apple obsoleting something.
    - atwebb 10y ago
      >Also $200 isn't that expensive when talking about headphones It absolutely is. Is it more common now than a few years ago? Yep. But it's still expensive, especially when there are excellent options below $50 and serviceable ones around $4-5.
      - theshrike79 10y ago
        We have a highly differing opinion on "serviceable" and "excellent".
        atwebb 10y ago
        Clearly, though my every day pair are HD650s for home/office work. Well worth the $300, but also not something I plan on ever upgrading or replacing. $200 headphones are a luxury item and, I believe, objectively expensive. If they provide excellent sound over BT, maybe they're worth the $200 (160?), but they'd still be expensive.
  - r00fus 10y ago
    Do the dongle doesn't work for you?
  - greedo 10y ago
    Perhaps you missed it, but they're including a free dongle. And if you lose that, it's $9 to replace.
- comex 10y ago
  Up until today there's been minimal demand for Lightning headphones. Once the iPhone 7 is released I'd expect cheap Lightning headphones to be pretty common, just like you can find both Lightning and Micro-USB charging cables near the cash register at pharmacies today.
- vel0city 10y ago
  The Motorola S305's are some of the best Bluetooth headphones I've ever owned and they're usually ~$20-25. Comfortable, good battery life, decent enough audio quality, build quality that lasted 3 years. After that time the foam pads started falling apart, so I ordered another pair a few weeks ago. There are other similar models around the same price. You don't have to spend $100+ to get similar audio quality to $20 headphones that happen to have Bluetooth as well. Bluetooth chips are stupid cheap these days, pairing that with a small battery really doesn't add much to the cost of normal cheap headphone equipment and you'll find plenty of pairs <$40.
Alupis 10y ago
> people will buy lightning headphones instead of bluetooth Yes, another proprietary connector no better at it's task than the equivalent industry standard connector.
- scottmf 10y ago
  No better by what measure? Because it's objectively better in every way besides ubiquity.

You see the prices on lightning headphones? Cheapest one Apple offers is $150. Searching for best cheap bluetooth headphones finds a bunch clustered around $100. I lose headphones like crazy, and I'm not an audiophile, so my average spend on headphones is under $20

AlexandrB 10y ago
I use (and keep) my headphones for years and I am an audiophile. This is a non-starter for me as well. I don't want to buy new $200 headphones after Apple inevitably obsoletes lighting and Bluetooth leaves a lot to be desired in terms of lag, pairing, charging, and audio quality.
- theshrike79 10y ago
  Apple stuck with the Dock connector for a decade. Lightning will most likely stay for at least that if not longer. Also $200 isn't that expensive when talking about headphones.
  - phinnaeus 10y ago
    Normally headphones come with a connector that is ubiquitous instead of proprietary, though.
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    >> I don't want to buy new $200 headphones > Also $200 isn't that expensive But forcing a $200 purchase is. Your parent already has good headphones they like, has had them for years, and none of those headphones needs replacing because they broke down or are obsoleted. The $200 purchase your parent mentions is because of Apple obsoleting something.
  - atwebb 10y ago
    >Also $200 isn't that expensive when talking about headphones It absolutely is. Is it more common now than a few years ago? Yep. But it's still expensive, especially when there are excellent options below $50 and serviceable ones around $4-5.
    - theshrike79 10y ago
      We have a highly differing opinion on "serviceable" and "excellent".
      - atwebb 10y ago
        Clearly, though my every day pair are HD650s for home/office work. Well worth the $300, but also not something I plan on ever upgrading or replacing. $200 headphones are a luxury item and, I believe, objectively expensive. If they provide excellent sound over BT, maybe they're worth the $200 (160?), but they'd still be expensive.
- r00fus 10y ago
  Do the dongle doesn't work for you?
- greedo 10y ago
  Perhaps you missed it, but they're including a free dongle. And if you lose that, it's $9 to replace.
comex 10y ago
Up until today there's been minimal demand for Lightning headphones. Once the iPhone 7 is released I'd expect cheap Lightning headphones to be pretty common, just like you can find both Lightning and Micro-USB charging cables near the cash register at pharmacies today.
vel0city 10y ago
The Motorola S305's are some of the best Bluetooth headphones I've ever owned and they're usually ~$20-25. Comfortable, good battery life, decent enough audio quality, build quality that lasted 3 years. After that time the foam pads started falling apart, so I ordered another pair a few weeks ago. There are other similar models around the same price. You don't have to spend $100+ to get similar audio quality to $20 headphones that happen to have Bluetooth as well. Bluetooth chips are stupid cheap these days, pairing that with a small battery really doesn't add much to the cost of normal cheap headphone equipment and you'll find plenty of pairs <$40.

Alupis 10y ago

> people will buy lightning headphones instead of bluetooth Yes, another proprietary connector no better at it's task than the equivalent industry standard connector.

scottmf 10y ago
No better by what measure? Because it's objectively better in every way besides ubiquity.