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> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. Can you explain this?

by FigBug 10y ago

berberous 10y ago
iOS is used by lots of musicians. Musicians use lots of headphone cables to connect music equipment. Even if they use lightning, they now can't use an iPhone for some music app while performing, output the audio, and charge it at the same time.
- derefr 10y ago
  I imagine the iPad Pro will keep the audio jack indefinitely, much as MBPs still have many ports Apple had eliminated in other devices.
- petercooper 10y ago
  I'm against the move, but undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port.
  - comex 10y ago
    Even if Apple doesn't make such an adapter, third parties undoubtedly will.
    - nixos 10y ago
      Unless it's locked down through the DMCA
  - out_of_protocol 10y ago
    > we'll soon have a breakout device USB-C indeed. Apple chose not to use it though
  - chimeracoder 10y ago
    > undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port. The Dell XPS 13 has a USB-C (Thunderbolt 3) port, which can do display, audio, and AC power all in the same port. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd
    - cdcarter 10y ago
      USB-C is the port on the Macbook as well, for what its worth.
- Unklejoe 10y ago
  I was not aware people were using mobile phone apps for live performances (or any serious music production actually). Laptops are common, but using an actual iPhone for a live performance seems unusual. Is this really a common thing? Unless you are referring to playing music during a party or something? I guess I'm out of touch, lol.
  - duaneb 10y ago
    Less so the iPhone than iPad, which appears to still have a headphone jack. I've definitely seen some live iPad mixing and synthesis, though.
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  - wishinghand 10y ago
    iOS is incredible with its amount of music making apps, and I'm not talking about mixing existing songs. There are synthesizers of many different types (sampler, rompler, additive, subtractive, FM, granular), traditional samplers, loopers, drum machines, live input, etc.
    - Unklejoe 10y ago
      That's cool. I guess there's no reason why things wouldn't naturally progress towards that. Phones are now powerful enough. My only experience with creating music electronically was with Fruity Loops back in the day, so that's what I had in my head. I figured it would be hard to manipulate something like that on such a small screen. The iPad does seem more suited, as the other comment mentioned.
      - 72deluxe 10y ago
        I use Magellan with my iPad as it is cheaper than buying a Nord. Interestingly I can use Beyerdynamic headphones with my iPad, whilst having a USB keyboard plugged into it. This will not be possible with this iPhone.
  - 10y ago
- sjwright 10y ago
  Wait another five minutes and a charge + headphone adapter will be available from a third party like Belkin.
- jodrellblank 10y ago
  They can't? https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iphone/a717-dock-station.jpg https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare...
cozzyd 10y ago
Presumably due to the lag from bluetooth combined with the inability to simultaneously charge and output sound.
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> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. Can you explain this?

by FigBug 10y ago

> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. Can you explain this?

iOS is used by lots of musicians. Musicians use lots of headphone cables to connect music equipment. Even if they use lightning, they now can't use an iPhone for some music app while performing, output the audio, and charge it at the same time.

derefr 10y ago
I imagine the iPad Pro will keep the audio jack indefinitely, much as MBPs still have many ports Apple had eliminated in other devices.
petercooper 10y ago
I'm against the move, but undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port.
- comex 10y ago
  Even if Apple doesn't make such an adapter, third parties undoubtedly will.
  - nixos 10y ago
    Unless it's locked down through the DMCA
- out_of_protocol 10y ago
  > we'll soon have a breakout device USB-C indeed. Apple chose not to use it though
- chimeracoder 10y ago
  > undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port. The Dell XPS 13 has a USB-C (Thunderbolt 3) port, which can do display, audio, and AC power all in the same port. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd
  - cdcarter 10y ago
    USB-C is the port on the Macbook as well, for what its worth.
Unklejoe 10y ago
I was not aware people were using mobile phone apps for live performances (or any serious music production actually). Laptops are common, but using an actual iPhone for a live performance seems unusual. Is this really a common thing? Unless you are referring to playing music during a party or something? I guess I'm out of touch, lol.
- duaneb 10y ago
  Less so the iPhone than iPad, which appears to still have a headphone jack. I've definitely seen some live iPad mixing and synthesis, though.
- deleted 10y ago
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- wishinghand 10y ago
  iOS is incredible with its amount of music making apps, and I'm not talking about mixing existing songs. There are synthesizers of many different types (sampler, rompler, additive, subtractive, FM, granular), traditional samplers, loopers, drum machines, live input, etc.
  - Unklejoe 10y ago
    That's cool. I guess there's no reason why things wouldn't naturally progress towards that. Phones are now powerful enough. My only experience with creating music electronically was with Fruity Loops back in the day, so that's what I had in my head. I figured it would be hard to manipulate something like that on such a small screen. The iPad does seem more suited, as the other comment mentioned.
    - 72deluxe 10y ago
      I use Magellan with my iPad as it is cheaper than buying a Nord. Interestingly I can use Beyerdynamic headphones with my iPad, whilst having a USB keyboard plugged into it. This will not be possible with this iPhone.
- 10y ago
sjwright 10y ago
Wait another five minutes and a charge + headphone adapter will be available from a third party like Belkin.
jodrellblank 10y ago
They can't? https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iphone/a717-dock-station.jpg https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare...

cozzyd 10y ago

Presumably due to the lag from bluetooth combined with the inability to simultaneously charge and output sound.

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