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I was really impressed with the new camera. It seems to me this was a bigger improvement than what they usually do.

excalibur 10y ago
I'm still kind of dumbfounded that the 7 Plus has two cameras side-by-side and apparently ISN'T using them to capture 3D images. One would think this would be the best/most obvious application.
- davidhperry 10y ago
  > One would think this would be the best/most obvious application. Holding some features back for the next model, perhaps. They have to smooth out the 'wow factor' for each model to keep growth steady.
  - sk8ingdom 10y ago
    Couldn't they push this out as a future software update?
- macinjosh 10y ago
  The reason for the lack of 3D is probably that the two cameras have different lenses. Once is wide angle the other is telephoto.
  - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
    You can still do it, you just have to tweak your calibration parameters to accept a different focal length for the second camera. It's a huge pain but doable.
    - mahyarm 10y ago
      Maybe it will be another software update, or something 'software new' for the iPhone 7S or 8 like they did with live photos & the 6S.
    - pvdebbe 10y ago
      Can the perspective difference be fixed in post? It's not going to be pretty interpolating the pixels using the other lens's data.
      - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
        I think you are thinking about more traditional Lightfield cameras - this doesn't appear to be that. It definitely won't be pretty, but whomever puts the work in will probably benefit from it somehow.
- nicky0 10y ago
  Nice opportunity there for 3rd party app makers. Presuming the RAW API or whatever it is called will let apps access the separate sensors. That said how would the phone display the 3D image? One of those cardboard VR things? Not very Appley.
- redler 10y ago
  The lenses are very close together, so any 3D effect would be very subtle except perhaps in close-up/macro situations.
- lorenzhs 10y ago
  They're too close together for that. Your eyes are about 6cm (~2.4in) apart, those lenses look like they're 1cm apart. You need enough distance between them to capture stereoscopic images.
- cududa 10y ago
  Remember Touch ID hardware > Apple Pay? I expect we'll see something similar with the dual cameras. I expect either VR support, 3D imaging, or using them+dynamic light sensing of iPad Pro to have a "reactive" UI where gradients in the UI behave as if they might have real world lighting applied to them
- evan_ 10y ago
  Maybe there's only one image processor so it can't capture from both cameras simultaneously.

I'm still kind of dumbfounded that the 7 Plus has two cameras side-by-side and apparently ISN'T using them to capture 3D images. One would think this would be the best/most obvious application.

davidhperry 10y ago
> One would think this would be the best/most obvious application. Holding some features back for the next model, perhaps. They have to smooth out the 'wow factor' for each model to keep growth steady.
- sk8ingdom 10y ago
  Couldn't they push this out as a future software update?
macinjosh 10y ago
The reason for the lack of 3D is probably that the two cameras have different lenses. Once is wide angle the other is telephoto.
- AndrewKemendo 10y ago
  You can still do it, you just have to tweak your calibration parameters to accept a different focal length for the second camera. It's a huge pain but doable.
  - mahyarm 10y ago
    Maybe it will be another software update, or something 'software new' for the iPhone 7S or 8 like they did with live photos & the 6S.
  - pvdebbe 10y ago
    Can the perspective difference be fixed in post? It's not going to be pretty interpolating the pixels using the other lens's data.
    - AndrewKemendo 10y ago
      I think you are thinking about more traditional Lightfield cameras - this doesn't appear to be that. It definitely won't be pretty, but whomever puts the work in will probably benefit from it somehow.
nicky0 10y ago
Nice opportunity there for 3rd party app makers. Presuming the RAW API or whatever it is called will let apps access the separate sensors. That said how would the phone display the 3D image? One of those cardboard VR things? Not very Appley.
redler 10y ago
The lenses are very close together, so any 3D effect would be very subtle except perhaps in close-up/macro situations.
lorenzhs 10y ago
They're too close together for that. Your eyes are about 6cm (~2.4in) apart, those lenses look like they're 1cm apart. You need enough distance between them to capture stereoscopic images.
cududa 10y ago
Remember Touch ID hardware > Apple Pay? I expect we'll see something similar with the dual cameras. I expect either VR support, 3D imaging, or using them+dynamic light sensing of iPad Pro to have a "reactive" UI where gradients in the UI behave as if they might have real world lighting applied to them
evan_ 10y ago
Maybe there's only one image processor so it can't capture from both cameras simultaneously.