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I'm not a Slack fanboy but this whole article reads like it was written in an echo chamber where the word "free" has no definition. > Ryver is entirely free. W
by jaredandrews 10y ago
I'm not a Slack fanboy but this whole article reads like it was written in an echo chamber where the word "free" has no definition.
> Ryver is entirely free. We give away what Slack charges a lot of money for.
> We’re a freemium model. We offer Ryver Team Communication for free and we will be charging money for add-on products such as a Task Manager.
So it's not "entirely free" the proper description would be "freemium".
Also from the FAQ:
> Then we will ship Ryver Enterprise for big companies. These will be priced very creatively and competitively.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT TEAM COMMUNICATION NEEDED TO BE FREEEEEEEE!
So once again, very clearly not free. Also "creatively" and "competitively", is that another way to describe: "hard to understand"? Reminds me of sketchy mattress dealers...
> The difference is that their free tier is a crippled product whereas our free level is a full product without limitations…
Okay..? I'm mean I see what they are saying but if I consider "task manager" to be a requirement for team communication, then you too are selling me a "crippled" product.
My key take away from this article is that Ryver is apparently the Donald Trump of the team communication world. Lots of smoke and mirrors and very few, if any, features that distinguish it from their competition.
But congrats, I guess... I now know the name of your company.
- patsullivan 10y agoTeam Communication does need to be free and does not "require" task management. You will be able to mix and match so only the ones who need tasks pay for it. The "creatively" word means we intend to price it so an Admin does not have to make a decision on adding cost EVERY TIME one more person needs Tasks. Since Ryver team comm matches up very well against what Slack charges for, it seems a reasonable (at least) claim to be entirely free vs Slack.
- jaredandrews 10y agoHmm... I strongly disagree with your assumptions. But, hackers have long debated the meaning of the word "free", so who am I to say? I guess we will have to update the Jargon file to include your curious new definition, "free as in free when compared to specific things that Slack Technologies Inc. sells".