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Dell tried to get into the cloud services market a long time ago, and didn't succeed. VMware is a weird case too, especially with containerization and cloud ser

Dell tried to get into the cloud services market a long time ago, and didn't succeed. VMware is a weird case too, especially with containerization and cloud service vendors being cheaper to use than building your own cloud. If Dell is trying to make their own cloud, I wonder if they'll succeed this time. Some people have said that ship has sailed for them. Then again, a company like Google has made a compelling competitor to AWS.

petra 10y ago
Maybe the idea is to get into the private cloud business, in hope that it will grow ?
- pm90 10y ago
  Exactly. AFAIK Amazon is the only company that has a profitable public cloud atm. Dell/EMC are mostly B2B companies and setting up and managing private clouds is the next gold mine.
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tracker1 10y ago
My hope is they'll actually put some resources into bringing VMWare current, and more open as an option, closer to how they were a few years back. ESXi is still a pretty nice server, but running a local/free version instance has become difficult with a few pitfalls if you do the wrong things somewhere... You're all but stuck with windows-only mgt software instead of a web-management interface. I'd like to see dell go closer to the Redhat model when it comes to VMWare after this closes out. Which would be a stark contrast to prior efforts. Also of interest would be offering "private cloud" hardware/software options. Would be very cool to have a turn-key solution for self-cloud hosting, and with VMWare's work so far, they might be in a better position to actually integrate docker as a solution than others, despite being different than their prior efforts.
- newman314 10y ago
  If you are running the latest versions of ESXi, you might be interested in this. https://labs.vmware.com/flings/esxi-embedded-host-client https://labs.vmware.com/flings/esxi-embedded-host-client Without going into more detail, VMware recognizes that Flash is a dead end and is working on converting things to HTML5. I'm fairly happy with the direction they are heading towards from a UI standpoint although I still mostly do things via CLI. To your other points, you might want to check out Cloud Foundation. Disclaimer: not a VMware employee, just a customer.
- parasubvert 10y ago
  VMware Photon is trying to focus on the latter, though you can get pretty close to a "private cloud in a box" today via EMC/VMware with this: http://virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2016/08/vmworld-2016-native-hybrid-cloud-11.html http://virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2016/08/vmworld-... caveat lector, I work for Pivotal.

petra 10y ago

Maybe the idea is to get into the private cloud business, in hope that it will grow ?

pm90 10y ago
Exactly. AFAIK Amazon is the only company that has a profitable public cloud atm. Dell/EMC are mostly B2B companies and setting up and managing private clouds is the next gold mine.
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tracker1 10y ago

My hope is they'll actually put some resources into bringing VMWare current, and more open as an option, closer to how they were a few years back. ESXi is still a pretty nice server, but running a local/free version instance has become difficult with a few pitfalls if you do the wrong things somewhere... You're all but stuck with windows-only mgt software instead of a web-management interface. I'd like to see dell go closer to the Redhat model when it comes to VMWare after this closes out. Which would be a stark contrast to prior efforts. Also of interest would be offering "private cloud" hardware/software options. Would be very cool to have a turn-key solution for self-cloud hosting, and with VMWare's work so far, they might be in a better position to actually integrate docker as a solution than others, despite being different than their prior efforts.

newman314 10y ago
If you are running the latest versions of ESXi, you might be interested in this. https://labs.vmware.com/flings/esxi-embedded-host-client https://labs.vmware.com/flings/esxi-embedded-host-client Without going into more detail, VMware recognizes that Flash is a dead end and is working on converting things to HTML5. I'm fairly happy with the direction they are heading towards from a UI standpoint although I still mostly do things via CLI. To your other points, you might want to check out Cloud Foundation. Disclaimer: not a VMware employee, just a customer.
parasubvert 10y ago
VMware Photon is trying to focus on the latter, though you can get pretty close to a "private cloud in a box" today via EMC/VMware with this: http://virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2016/08/vmworld-2016-native-hybrid-cloud-11.html http://virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2016/08/vmworld-... caveat lector, I work for Pivotal.