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Your comparison to Tuft and Needle is not very good. Everybody hates mattress stores for their sleazy business practices; it's a given. There's no unanimous ha

by jbob2000 10y ago

Your comparison to Tuft and Needle is not very good. Everybody hates mattress stores for their sleazy business practices; it's a given. There's no unanimous hatred for Slack, however, so your ads come off as pretty ignorant. We use slack at my company and have 0 problems with it. I am perfectly aware of its limitations and I am fine with them. Also, I have to download a desktop client to use Ryver? 2004 called and wants their software back.

sidlls 10y ago
Actually I would find a desktop client more appealing. I'm not a fan of browsers-as-poorly-functioning-userlands-on-userlands that seems to be the modern fad.
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  But Slack's desktop client is excellent. Furthermore, Ryver makes a big point about guest access - and a browser client would be much better for guests than a dedicated client they may only use once.
  - eli 10y ago
    HipChat has both: a web client and a native windows/mac client.
    - pavel_lishin 10y ago
      And per-channel guest access, too.
    - Bartweiss 10y ago
      Slack also - you can use it in browser. Most people don't want to, but I've seen some people say that they do so much work there that it's nice to have a browser tab visible.
  - patsullivan 10y ago
    We run in every browser and also have native apps for every platform.
- eli 10y ago
  Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack. I can understand not everyone wants to use a native app, but it sure would be a nice option.
  - Kadin 10y ago
    > Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack. Is Slack's desktop client a new thing? I'm relatively new to it, but they certainly have one now.
  - jaegerpicker 10y ago
    Slack has a native desktop client and has for a long time.
- p4wnc6 10y ago
  Agreed. Desktop apps are generally so much better.
  - patsullivan 10y ago
    Most of our users do use the native apps. Some prefer the browser though.
- daxorid 10y ago
  Or, better yet, irssi in persistent tmux. Slack really can't compare to terminal irc clients in terms of usability and flexibility.
- patsullivan 10y ago
  We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.
gkoberger 10y ago
Tuft and Needle also doesn't call out anyone by name. Nobody would care if Ryver's ads said "Chat programs are greedy," rather than specifically naming a beloved company. And it's made worse since Ryver just seems to be an (inferior) Slack clone.
patsullivan 10y ago
We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.
patsullivan 10y ago
Of course we run in all browsers. Also have native apps for windows, mac, linux, ios and android. 2004 never did call.
patsullivan 10y ago
No, of course we run in a browser as well as windows, mac, linux, ios, android. 2004 hasn't called.

sidlls 10y ago

Actually I would find a desktop client more appealing. I'm not a fan of browsers-as-poorly-functioning-userlands-on-userlands that seems to be the modern fad.

pavel_lishin 10y ago
But Slack's desktop client is excellent. Furthermore, Ryver makes a big point about guest access - and a browser client would be much better for guests than a dedicated client they may only use once.
- eli 10y ago
  HipChat has both: a web client and a native windows/mac client.
  - pavel_lishin 10y ago
    And per-channel guest access, too.
  - Bartweiss 10y ago
    Slack also - you can use it in browser. Most people don't want to, but I've seen some people say that they do so much work there that it's nice to have a browser tab visible.
- patsullivan 10y ago
  We run in every browser and also have native apps for every platform.
eli 10y ago
Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack. I can understand not everyone wants to use a native app, but it sure would be a nice option.
- Kadin 10y ago
  > Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack. Is Slack's desktop client a new thing? I'm relatively new to it, but they certainly have one now.
- jaegerpicker 10y ago
  Slack has a native desktop client and has for a long time.
p4wnc6 10y ago
Agreed. Desktop apps are generally so much better.
- patsullivan 10y ago
  Most of our users do use the native apps. Some prefer the browser though.
daxorid 10y ago
Or, better yet, irssi in persistent tmux. Slack really can't compare to terminal irc clients in terms of usability and flexibility.
patsullivan 10y ago
We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.

gkoberger 10y ago

Tuft and Needle also doesn't call out anyone by name. Nobody would care if Ryver's ads said "Chat programs are greedy," rather than specifically naming a beloved company. And it's made worse since Ryver just seems to be an (inferior) Slack clone.

patsullivan 10y ago

We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.

patsullivan 10y ago

Of course we run in all browsers. Also have native apps for windows, mac, linux, ios and android. 2004 never did call.

patsullivan 10y ago

No, of course we run in a browser as well as windows, mac, linux, ios, android. 2004 hasn't called.