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The comments below this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438979 tell us why it is on Schedule I. For the un

The comments below this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438979 tell us why it is on Schedule I. For the uninitiated: Some experiences change your life. All schedule I substances might make a user quit their job. Period. That's what the list means. There are LOTS of things that will merely kill you which are NOT on the list... N.B. I have no idea what "Kratom", and "change your life" certainly doesn't always imply "for the better". Stay safe, kids, stay smart.

fapjacks 10y ago
Kratom allows people to become productive, taxpaying citizens with full time jobs that otherwise aren't able to. Look up the #iamkratom hashtag.
- daveloyall 10y ago
  I think you misread my comment. I haven't tried the stuff and I'm not about to endorse something that I haven't tried. Moreover, there are things I do recommend but I still advise potential users to stay safe and be smart. Now back to my original point: there are things on the Schedule I list that can change people's lives. Some of the most interesting things on the list can, on first use, pull back the veil and allow the user to re-evaluate their most basic beliefs. My argument is that the establishment does not benefit from people doing that, when so many of their workers have BS jobs. The list might exist to protect the basic health and safety of our population, or it might exist to protect the status quo. You say this stuff is great? Well don't be surprised it's on the list, then! :)
  - fapjacks 10y ago
    I smell what you're cooking. There were enough negative comments in here that I had incorrectly presumed to lump yours in with them, and I'm sorry for that. I try not to talk too much about existing power structures and the "real" reason things happen (or don't happen), but that doesn't mean it isn't true, or more true than any other reason put forward.

fapjacks 10y ago

Kratom allows people to become productive, taxpaying citizens with full time jobs that otherwise aren't able to. Look up the #iamkratom hashtag.

daveloyall 10y ago
I think you misread my comment. I haven't tried the stuff and I'm not about to endorse something that I haven't tried. Moreover, there are things I do recommend but I still advise potential users to stay safe and be smart. Now back to my original point: there are things on the Schedule I list that can change people's lives. Some of the most interesting things on the list can, on first use, pull back the veil and allow the user to re-evaluate their most basic beliefs. My argument is that the establishment does not benefit from people doing that, when so many of their workers have BS jobs. The list might exist to protect the basic health and safety of our population, or it might exist to protect the status quo. You say this stuff is great? Well don't be surprised it's on the list, then! :)
- fapjacks 10y ago
  I smell what you're cooking. There were enough negative comments in here that I had incorrectly presumed to lump yours in with them, and I'm sorry for that. I try not to talk too much about existing power structures and the "real" reason things happen (or don't happen), but that doesn't mean it isn't true, or more true than any other reason put forward.