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Isn't that what GamerGate was basically about? Well, at least in part anyway. But the issue with standing up to them (however necessary it might be) is that su

by CM30 10y ago

Isn't that what GamerGate was basically about? Well, at least in part anyway. But the issue with standing up to them (however necessary it might be) is that such individuals have a tendency to play the victim a lot and get quite a bit of the media to rally around them every time someone calls them out. It's hard to call out cases like this when the inevitable media coverage will be 'Javascript conference harassed by internet trolls over Douglas Crockford's invite'.

wayniac 10y ago
Perhaps but at the same time I think some blame lies on the conferences that try to cater to these folks instead of telling them to grow up and act like adults. You're right though, the SJW crowd loves to play the victim card and cry racism/sexism/oppression whenever someone doesn't cater to them. If the conference had been like no we aren't doing it, the person who complained would have likely blogged/tweeted/etc. about how the conference is sexist and "problematic" because they aren't listening to her (pretty sure it was a woman) and are therefore engaging in rape culture or whatever stupid nonsense these people peddle.
aikah 10y ago
> that such individuals have a tendency to play the victim a lot and get quite a bit of the media to rally around them every time someone calls them out Of course, they know how things work, they'll accuse you of racism, sexism, misogyny, transphobia and ruin your career that's what they do.They know they need no proof and let the internet "be judge", that's what dangerous with these people. If you dare call them out your career is finished, they have a real power of nuisance, wrapped in "virtue" with leitmotives such as "inclusivity" and "diversity". Newspeech at its finest. It's just a power grab game, and they are eliminating the competition with politics since their skills are mediocre.
jpfed 10y ago
No, Gamergate was about ethics in journalism. That's why it started when Gerstmann was pushed out of GameSpot for his unfavorable review of Kane and Lynch.
- jpfed 10y ago
  I suppose I should have included an explicit marker of sarcasm...?
- makomk 10y ago
  Hah. I read some of the very first discussions - before it was even called Gamergate yet - and in some sense it did start when Gerstmann was pushed out of GameSpot. The threads were full of of anger and distrust in the gaming press being stoked by past incidents, including that one. All that changed was that for some reason social justice activists decided to tie their credibility to that of the gaming press.

by CM30 10y ago

wayniac 10y ago

Perhaps but at the same time I think some blame lies on the conferences that try to cater to these folks instead of telling them to grow up and act like adults. You're right though, the SJW crowd loves to play the victim card and cry racism/sexism/oppression whenever someone doesn't cater to them. If the conference had been like no we aren't doing it, the person who complained would have likely blogged/tweeted/etc. about how the conference is sexist and "problematic" because they aren't listening to her (pretty sure it was a woman) and are therefore engaging in rape culture or whatever stupid nonsense these people peddle.

aikah 10y ago

> that such individuals have a tendency to play the victim a lot and get quite a bit of the media to rally around them every time someone calls them out Of course, they know how things work, they'll accuse you of racism, sexism, misogyny, transphobia and ruin your career that's what they do.They know they need no proof and let the internet "be judge", that's what dangerous with these people. If you dare call them out your career is finished, they have a real power of nuisance, wrapped in "virtue" with leitmotives such as "inclusivity" and "diversity". Newspeech at its finest. It's just a power grab game, and they are eliminating the competition with politics since their skills are mediocre.

jpfed 10y ago

No, Gamergate was about ethics in journalism. That's why it started when Gerstmann was pushed out of GameSpot for his unfavorable review of Kane and Lynch.

jpfed 10y ago
I suppose I should have included an explicit marker of sarcasm...?
makomk 10y ago
Hah. I read some of the very first discussions - before it was even called Gamergate yet - and in some sense it did start when Gerstmann was pushed out of GameSpot. The threads were full of of anger and distrust in the gaming press being stoked by past incidents, including that one. All that changed was that for some reason social justice activists decided to tie their credibility to that of the gaming press.