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At this point, it would be desirable if people started actively boycotting Nodevember. I understand that quite many individuals in the Node community may be in
by etangent 10y ago
At this point, it would be desirable if people started actively boycotting Nodevember. I understand that quite many individuals in the Node community may be in favor of the decision to exclude Crockford, but I also suspect that there is a significant amount of people (if judging only by the responses in this thread) who very much dislike that decision. A concerted effort to boycott the conference, even if done by a minority, would set a precedent and send a very clear message that such arbitrarily rude behavior on the part of the organizers will not be tolerated in future events like this.
A boycott would also pressure the organizers to either "put up or shut up" regarding the evidence surrounding Crockford's dismissal. There is a very good chance [1] that this is a personal vendetta happening rather than any ethical misdeed done on Crockford's part. If so, a move to boycott the conference would benefit not only the liberal side, but also the "politically correct" (for lack of better words) side, as nobody is interested that their political movement be hijacked by people seeking personal/egotistic goals [2]. If, on the other hand, Crockford was indeed dismissed due to political motives, there is still a decent chance that the evidence against him is extremely weak (hence reluctance to present it). Such a situation would also benefit both sides, in the sense that it would teach them a valuable lesson that persecuting people is not something that should be undertaken lightly.
There are other JavaScript conferences happening this year [3]. Go to those instead. Encourage your friends to do the same.
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[1] See Tim Hunt's case for an example of a similar situation where the evidence against an individual later turned out to be mostly made up of thin air. https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-timothy-hunt-witch-hunt/ https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-timothy-hunt... [2] Per conversation with the organizer, he had admitted to having "a long and storied history" with D. Crockford, which further corroborates the possibility of personal vendetta. https://twitter.com/getify/status/772413034773909504 https://twitter.com/getify/status/772413034773909504 [3] https://github.com/prigara/javascript-conferences https://github.com/prigara/javascript-conferences
- ageofwant 10y agoAbsolutely. I will not willingly associate myself with the Nodevember cabal, and neither should any other reasonable and tolerant progressive.
- makomk 10y agoExactly. We must fight back against this dangerous, oppressive trend of conferences giving into threats of boycotts by threatening to boycott any conference that doesn't do as we demand.
- etangent 10y agoAssuming the worst case scenario, the boycotts lead to two parallel conferences. Since when did open-source developers start worrying about forking? I personally would take parallel conferences over incessant conflict any day.
- rhapsodic 10y ago> We must fight back against this dangerous, oppressive trend of conferences giving into threats of boycotts by threatening to boycott any conference that doesn't do as we demand. Yep, because that's the only way to fight it that will be effective. Conferences will only stop caving in to these vicious, hateful cry-bullies when caving becomes more costly than not caving. All of the tactics these SJWs employ should be employed against them, on a massive scale. One of the instigators in this case, @nexxylove, is, get this, a "developer evangelist" for Salesforce.com. And they hold developer conferences. I hope a lot of people who find her behavior offensive let them know that the won't "feel safe" at any Salesforce developer's conference where she is in attendance. Another one, @nodebotanist, is, according to her Linkedin page, a developer evangelist with Auth0. Let's all make our feels known to these companies! Let the boycotts commence!
- habitue 10y agoThis seems dangerously close to inciting a brigade against these two people. I don't agree with their complaints or nodevember's response to them, but we need to be super careful not to aim the crazies at these people personally.
- rhapsodic 10y agoIt would be doing to them what they did to Crockford. Nothing more, nothing less. Turnabout is fair play. It would make them, and hopefully others, think twice before trying to publicly smear someone in the future.
- sjwright 10y agoThe sad irony is this all started because some people didn't like how Nodevember was run and were going to boycott. With Nodevember now crumbling into a mess, in a very strange albeit roundabout way, they are now getting exactly what they want.