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I think the conference was facing a number of people who refused to participate as speakers due to Crockford's attendance. The conference organizers presumably

I think the conference was facing a number of people who refused to participate as speakers due to Crockford's attendance. The conference organizers presumably felt pressured to do something to prevent speakers from leaving en masse. That's slightly different than what you were saying, but it seems like an important distinction.

girvo 10y ago
Which makes more sense, but I'm honestly not understanding the reasoning behind those speakers who threatened to leave, and no one in all of this has really had anything of substance to point to... I'm more confused than anything...
tobltobs 10y ago
> was facing a number of people A number of people or just one or two? It seems like an important distinction.
- andyford 10y ago
  one, two and zero are all numbers.
  - tobltobs 10y ago
    This is of course correct, at least if you ignore the implied meaning, which is a "group of". And yes I know that a two people could be called a group. But what is more important is that you illustrate the hypocritical argument, that if a "number of people" do object the participation of another speaker it is ok to uninvite him. Nodovember should be more concrete or shut up.
danielrhodes 10y ago
The proper response to this is to show the speakers who were protesting to the door. It is the same scenario as when an employee tries to blackmail an employer into getting a raise or a promotion.
- michael_fine 10y ago
  But if a significant group of employees do it, that's called... a strike, which is absolutely a reasonable thing for an employer to acquiesce to.
Noseshine 10y ago
> prevent speakers from leaving en masse "Leaving en masse"? The unsubstantiated claims get ever more outrageous and ridiculous with each new telling. Fortunately they didn't actually say anything at all, so that facts cannot be checked and fantasy can run its course unhindered. Read this reddit comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/51e2jb/nodevember_organizers_steps_down_i_did_not_and/d7b9k7r https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/51e2jb/nodevemb... Two people, none of which provided any evidence.

girvo 10y ago

Which makes more sense, but I'm honestly not understanding the reasoning behind those speakers who threatened to leave, and no one in all of this has really had anything of substance to point to... I'm more confused than anything...

tobltobs 10y ago

> was facing a number of people A number of people or just one or two? It seems like an important distinction.

andyford 10y ago
one, two and zero are all numbers.
- tobltobs 10y ago
  This is of course correct, at least if you ignore the implied meaning, which is a "group of". And yes I know that a two people could be called a group. But what is more important is that you illustrate the hypocritical argument, that if a "number of people" do object the participation of another speaker it is ok to uninvite him. Nodovember should be more concrete or shut up.

danielrhodes 10y ago

The proper response to this is to show the speakers who were protesting to the door. It is the same scenario as when an employee tries to blackmail an employer into getting a raise or a promotion.

michael_fine 10y ago
But if a significant group of employees do it, that's called... a strike, which is absolutely a reasonable thing for an employer to acquiesce to.

Noseshine 10y ago

> prevent speakers from leaving en masse "Leaving en masse"? The unsubstantiated claims get ever more outrageous and ridiculous with each new telling. Fortunately they didn't actually say anything at all, so that facts cannot be checked and fantasy can run its course unhindered. Read this reddit comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/51e2jb/nodevember_organizers_steps_down_i_did_not_and/d7b9k7r https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/51e2jb/nodevemb... Two people, none of which provided any evidence.