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For once, I find myself agreeing with the write-up. They really were parasites (without the quotes) and the others really were hooligans. None of them seemed to

by norswap 10y ago

For once, I find myself agreeing with the write-up. They really were parasites (without the quotes) and the others really were hooligans. None of them seemed to understand the spirit of the event. About jet-setters at least, there is little that can be done. Fork the event?

WalterSear 10y ago
Burning man has been too big for about a decade. It's subsumed much of indie festival culture, and replaced it with something 'too big too fail', with all the trappings of main stream accessibility that the vandals in this article are reacting poorly too.
- bigiain 10y ago
  FWIW, the first time I went a bunch of long-term burner friends were all "Man, this all gotten too big and has sold out! You should have been here 5 years ago!". There were about 7,000 people there that year, 1998...
  - cmurf 10y ago
    Repeatibility is hard. I'm in the same mountain town, two summers in a row, and it's a completely different experience. Many things are identical, in fact I'm surrounded by it. But the experience I'm having is very different. I think sometimes there's too much attachment to replicating things of the past.
xkcd-sucks 10y ago
Attend your local Rainbow Gathering until Vice starts writing about it?
bigiain 10y ago
Fork the event and then do not talk about Fight Club! (He said, hypocritically, having first gone to Burningman as a result of the '96 Wired article on it...)
curun1r 10y ago
I think the solution is to lock the event early in the week and close the airstrip. That would mean if you want to be there for the weekend, you have to drive there (from Reno, at least) and stay at least 5 days in the desert. Those that want comfort and convenience need to get the message that Burning Man isn't for them and yet Burning Man should still be inclusive to everyone who's willing to embrace the principles behind it. But I'm also extremely sympathetic to the vandals if the stories of bouncers are true. My favorite part of the years that I went was wandering into random camps and starting conversations with strangers. I met a lot of amazing people and still call some of them friends. There was something about Burning Man that allowed people to discard social conventions which keep people separated that was truly magical. If this aspect of the festival has been lost, or is being lost, I can see a lot of people being justifiably angry at the people responsible for that change.
- mullen 10y ago
  I have worked at the Airport a few years and I am starting to see that what the problem is, is the Airport. Originally, it was so that people who owned airplanes could fly their planes there. Which for many years worked out really well. The Airport is self sufficient, a team of Volunteer's operate it and they smooth out all the necessary BS with BLM and FAA. However, the Airport is the way that the people who don't contribute anything to Burning Man get into Burning Man. They need to go back to non-commerical flight only.

by norswap 10y ago

WalterSear 10y ago

Burning man has been too big for about a decade. It's subsumed much of indie festival culture, and replaced it with something 'too big too fail', with all the trappings of main stream accessibility that the vandals in this article are reacting poorly too.

bigiain 10y ago
FWIW, the first time I went a bunch of long-term burner friends were all "Man, this all gotten too big and has sold out! You should have been here 5 years ago!". There were about 7,000 people there that year, 1998...
- cmurf 10y ago
  Repeatibility is hard. I'm in the same mountain town, two summers in a row, and it's a completely different experience. Many things are identical, in fact I'm surrounded by it. But the experience I'm having is very different. I think sometimes there's too much attachment to replicating things of the past.

xkcd-sucks 10y ago

Attend your local Rainbow Gathering until Vice starts writing about it?

bigiain 10y ago

Fork the event and then do not talk about Fight Club! (He said, hypocritically, having first gone to Burningman as a result of the '96 Wired article on it...)

curun1r 10y ago

I think the solution is to lock the event early in the week and close the airstrip. That would mean if you want to be there for the weekend, you have to drive there (from Reno, at least) and stay at least 5 days in the desert. Those that want comfort and convenience need to get the message that Burning Man isn't for them and yet Burning Man should still be inclusive to everyone who's willing to embrace the principles behind it. But I'm also extremely sympathetic to the vandals if the stories of bouncers are true. My favorite part of the years that I went was wandering into random camps and starting conversations with strangers. I met a lot of amazing people and still call some of them friends. There was something about Burning Man that allowed people to discard social conventions which keep people separated that was truly magical. If this aspect of the festival has been lost, or is being lost, I can see a lot of people being justifiably angry at the people responsible for that change.

mullen 10y ago
I have worked at the Airport a few years and I am starting to see that what the problem is, is the Airport. Originally, it was so that people who owned airplanes could fly their planes there. Which for many years worked out really well. The Airport is self sufficient, a team of Volunteer's operate it and they smooth out all the necessary BS with BLM and FAA. However, the Airport is the way that the people who don't contribute anything to Burning Man get into Burning Man. They need to go back to non-commerical flight only.