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Most notable for me is when I go out to a restaurant in Manhattan I see many tables full of grown ups and seniors having lively discussions. In SF it's like tha

Most notable for me is when I go out to a restaurant in Manhattan I see many tables full of grown ups and seniors having lively discussions. In SF it's like that Star Trek episode where a virus kills off all the adults and leaves only children.

electic 10y ago
...kills off all the adults and leaves children at the dinner table on their cell phones.
_delirium 10y ago
Southern California is a lot more age-balanced in that respect than the SF Bay Area. Depends a lot on where you go, but plenty of places in L.A. and San Diego are full of older people. Especially certain times of day, e.g. breakfast at any diner is mostly older people.
- raldi 10y ago
  The data disagrees with your assessment. Population by age range, SF vs LA: 20-24: 3.8% / 8.1% 25-34: 21.5% / 18.3% 35-44: 16.3% / 15.8% 45-54: 14.0% / 11.6% 55-64: 12.4% / 7.0% 65+: 15.2% / 9.7% SF vs SD: 20-24: 3.8% / 9.0% 25-34: 21.5% / 17.7% 35-44: 16.3% / 16.2% 45-54: 14.0% / 12.1% 55-64: 12.4% / 7.0% 65+: 15.2% / 10.5%
  - rak00n 10y ago
    That means a recent grad in San Francisco will have a harder time dating girls around his age and dating pool will increase as he approaches 34.
raldi 10y ago
This smells to me like confirmation bias. The actual demographic data shows SF skews older than Manhattan: Population by age range, SF vs Manhattan: 20-24: 3.8% / 7.4% 25-34: 21.5% / 22.7% 35-44: 16.3% / 14.6% 45-54: 14.0% / 12.8% 55-64: 12.4% / 11.4% 65+: 15.2% / 14.4%
- drewblaisdell 10y ago
  Income in SF probably skews younger, though.
  - raldi 10y ago
    Doesn't that say more about OP's taste in restaurants than SF's demographics?
- boulos 10y ago
  What's the source for your data? While searching, I found this [0] which seems to have some detail by zipcode. (I had thought "Maybe he means in restaurants in the Mission?", suggestion: nope). [0] http://www.sfhip.org/index.php?module=DemographicData&type=user&func=ddview&varset=1&ve=tab&pct=2&levels=-1&varid=1564&vl=tb&sregcomp=1 http://www.sfhip.org/index.php?module=DemographicData&type=u...
  - raldi 10y ago
    That's the correct link; skip to the second table, after the zip codes.
- skewart 10y ago
  Even if SF's population "skews older" than Manhattan's, it doesn't refute the original commenter's anecdote. Older people in SF may dine out less than older people in Manhattan do - perhaps for financial or logistical or cultural reasons.
  - HelloNurse 10y ago
    Or they dine out somewhere else and appear in someone else's anecdotes. Many restaurants attract or repel specific age ranges, often as a deliberate marketing policy: if a restaurant is full of young people it is, usually, a restaurant for young people, for example because it plays trendy dance music fairly loud or because it's close to a university campus.
  - adpoe 10y ago

electic 10y ago

...kills off all the adults and leaves children at the dinner table on their cell phones.

_delirium 10y ago

Southern California is a lot more age-balanced in that respect than the SF Bay Area. Depends a lot on where you go, but plenty of places in L.A. and San Diego are full of older people. Especially certain times of day, e.g. breakfast at any diner is mostly older people.

raldi 10y ago
The data disagrees with your assessment. Population by age range, SF vs LA: 20-24: 3.8% / 8.1% 25-34: 21.5% / 18.3% 35-44: 16.3% / 15.8% 45-54: 14.0% / 11.6% 55-64: 12.4% / 7.0% 65+: 15.2% / 9.7% SF vs SD: 20-24: 3.8% / 9.0% 25-34: 21.5% / 17.7% 35-44: 16.3% / 16.2% 45-54: 14.0% / 12.1% 55-64: 12.4% / 7.0% 65+: 15.2% / 10.5%
- rak00n 10y ago
  That means a recent grad in San Francisco will have a harder time dating girls around his age and dating pool will increase as he approaches 34.

raldi 10y ago

This smells to me like confirmation bias. The actual demographic data shows SF skews older than Manhattan: Population by age range, SF vs Manhattan: 20-24: 3.8% / 7.4% 25-34: 21.5% / 22.7% 35-44: 16.3% / 14.6% 45-54: 14.0% / 12.8% 55-64: 12.4% / 11.4% 65+: 15.2% / 14.4%

drewblaisdell 10y ago
Income in SF probably skews younger, though.
- raldi 10y ago
  Doesn't that say more about OP's taste in restaurants than SF's demographics?
boulos 10y ago
What's the source for your data? While searching, I found this [0] which seems to have some detail by zipcode. (I had thought "Maybe he means in restaurants in the Mission?", suggestion: nope). [0] http://www.sfhip.org/index.php?module=DemographicData&type=user&func=ddview&varset=1&ve=tab&pct=2&levels=-1&varid=1564&vl=tb&sregcomp=1 http://www.sfhip.org/index.php?module=DemographicData&type=u...
- raldi 10y ago
  That's the correct link; skip to the second table, after the zip codes.
skewart 10y ago
Even if SF's population "skews older" than Manhattan's, it doesn't refute the original commenter's anecdote. Older people in SF may dine out less than older people in Manhattan do - perhaps for financial or logistical or cultural reasons.
- HelloNurse 10y ago
  Or they dine out somewhere else and appear in someone else's anecdotes. Many restaurants attract or repel specific age ranges, often as a deliberate marketing policy: if a restaurant is full of young people it is, usually, a restaurant for young people, for example because it plays trendy dance music fairly loud or because it's close to a university campus.
- adpoe 10y ago