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Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with, but I think this might somewhat be on the right track. It seems weird to attribute thi

Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with, but I think this might somewhat be on the right track. It seems weird to attribute this change to something outside of the education system when there have been plenty of changes within it.

lucozade 10y ago
> Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with That could be the reason. Or it could be that this article is referring to an increase in pre-school readiness in poor children. It makes clear that there was no drop in readiness of rich children over the same period. Therefore the chances of this effect being due to some form of educational dumbing down doesn't make much sense. Now the authors of the article it's based on believe that the effect is likely due to improvements in parental education pre-school and that that may be, at least partially, due to government campaigns. I that sense it is conceivable (excuse the pun) to attribute it to the education system but not in the way the GP is suggesting.
- DominikR 10y ago
  My point was that the educational system has been tweaked to be easier for everyone across the board. Children that previously performed better still perform well, children that performed worse now perform better than before. I'm not rejecting that contraception could be a reason, it's just that you have to show convincing evidence for it. The more counter intuitive your theory is the more evidence you need to produce. Imagine I declared that all of this is correlating with the size of Big Mac menus and has nothing to do with changes in the educational system. It wouldn't be unreasonable for you to question my theory, especially if I do not provide any evidence. > Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with I have no problem with that. If I'm just regurgitating what everyone is already believing then my comments would be pointless. I happen to have a different opinion and I know that for some this is offending. (but thats really their problem, not mine)
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Noseshine 10y ago
I did not vote in this particular case, but the downvotes probably are related to the complete lack of evidence included among the many claims? For an example using your own post, you write "plenty of changes". What changes? Links? You may or may not be right. Even if you are, most readers are just that, readers, not experts in the specific field. So one should include link to supporting evidence no matter how obvious it seems to oneself.

lucozade 10y ago

> Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with That could be the reason. Or it could be that this article is referring to an increase in pre-school readiness in poor children. It makes clear that there was no drop in readiness of rich children over the same period. Therefore the chances of this effect being due to some form of educational dumbing down doesn't make much sense. Now the authors of the article it's based on believe that the effect is likely due to improvements in parental education pre-school and that that may be, at least partially, due to government campaigns. I that sense it is conceivable (excuse the pun) to attribute it to the education system but not in the way the GP is suggesting.

DominikR 10y ago
My point was that the educational system has been tweaked to be easier for everyone across the board. Children that previously performed better still perform well, children that performed worse now perform better than before. I'm not rejecting that contraception could be a reason, it's just that you have to show convincing evidence for it. The more counter intuitive your theory is the more evidence you need to produce. Imagine I declared that all of this is correlating with the size of Big Mac menus and has nothing to do with changes in the educational system. It wouldn't be unreasonable for you to question my theory, especially if I do not provide any evidence. > Not sure why people feel a need to downvote things they don't agree with I have no problem with that. If I'm just regurgitating what everyone is already believing then my comments would be pointless. I happen to have a different opinion and I know that for some this is offending. (but thats really their problem, not mine)

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Noseshine 10y ago

I did not vote in this particular case, but the downvotes probably are related to the complete lack of evidence included among the many claims? For an example using your own post, you write "plenty of changes". What changes? Links? You may or may not be right. Even if you are, most readers are just that, readers, not experts in the specific field. So one should include link to supporting evidence no matter how obvious it seems to oneself.