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I'm also wondering about that. The only recent statement I know of is from Cloudflare, where they say that 94% of the Tor traffic they see is malicious.[1] It'

by dx034 10y ago

I'm also wondering about that. The only recent statement I know of is from Cloudflare, where they say that 94% of the Tor traffic they see is malicious.[1] It's good to protect anonymous way to use the internet, but it shouldn't be ignored that Tor is probably primarily used for illegal purposes. [1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-trouble-with-tor/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-trouble-with-tor/

ap22213 10y ago
But, also, cloudflare has made the malicious / non-malicious ratio so much worse. A staggering amount of web content has become practically inaccessible on TOR because of them. This makes TOR very difficult to use for the average law-abiding person who just wants more privacy.
- the_mitsuhiko 10y ago
  That's not their fault. Tor IPs habe shitty reputation because of the users on it.
  - apk17 10y ago
    They have a shitty reputation because they funnel a higher-than-normal number of users through a single IP. And apparently cloudflare is much more aggressive on this front than anybody else in this business, including google - when I get a captcha it's always cloudflare (or hacker news). On those sites I can practically rely on getting one. To turn it around, every time I see a cloudflare captcha they obviously have failed.
    - paulddraper 10y ago
      > To turn it around, every time I see a cloudflare captcha they obviously have failed. They how can you tell when they succeeded? Your perspective is one-sided because you are always a good guy.
    - qwertyuiop0987 10y ago
      obviously you missed the part where cloudfare uses google recaptcha.
nickodell 10y ago
94% of traffic != 94% of users. If a skiddie runs a vulnerability scanner that sends 1 req/s 24x7, that produces more traffic than a hundred normal Tor users. That said, I was disappointed by the Tor project's response to Cloudflare.
- frederikvs 10y ago
  Is there anywhere we can read (about) this response?
  - nickodell 10y ago
    https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trouble-cloudflare https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trouble-cloudflare

by dx034 10y ago

ap22213 10y ago

But, also, cloudflare has made the malicious / non-malicious ratio so much worse. A staggering amount of web content has become practically inaccessible on TOR because of them. This makes TOR very difficult to use for the average law-abiding person who just wants more privacy.

the_mitsuhiko 10y ago
That's not their fault. Tor IPs habe shitty reputation because of the users on it.
- apk17 10y ago
  They have a shitty reputation because they funnel a higher-than-normal number of users through a single IP. And apparently cloudflare is much more aggressive on this front than anybody else in this business, including google - when I get a captcha it's always cloudflare (or hacker news). On those sites I can practically rely on getting one. To turn it around, every time I see a cloudflare captcha they obviously have failed.
  - paulddraper 10y ago
    > To turn it around, every time I see a cloudflare captcha they obviously have failed. They how can you tell when they succeeded? Your perspective is one-sided because you are always a good guy.
  - qwertyuiop0987 10y ago
    obviously you missed the part where cloudfare uses google recaptcha.

nickodell 10y ago

94% of traffic != 94% of users. If a skiddie runs a vulnerability scanner that sends 1 req/s 24x7, that produces more traffic than a hundred normal Tor users. That said, I was disappointed by the Tor project's response to Cloudflare.

frederikvs 10y ago
Is there anywhere we can read (about) this response?
- nickodell 10y ago
  https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trouble-cloudflare https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trouble-cloudflare