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So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het,

by kmonsen 10y ago

So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het, much easier to blame those hackers for smoking pot. This is just a stupid excuse for why he is not doing his job effectively.

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- mejiacourtney39 10y ago
  Hello im wondering if u could help me find things out
  - trlane040 10y ago
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- trlane040 10y ago
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alien3d 10y ago
that's why i hate story like Mr Robot. It give bad impression.
vacri 10y ago
Where does it say there are no long term career prospects? Or 'reasonable' compensation? It just says "they can find more lucrative deals". You seem to be projecting something onto the article that isn't there.
- Karnickel 10y ago
  Just before where you found that quote the text is a link to another article that talks about those things.
  - vacri 10y ago
    You mean this? http://www.informationweek.com/government/cybersecurity/government-hiring-practices-hamper-cybersecurity-efforts/d/d-id/1252939?page_number=1 http://www.informationweek.com/government/cybersecurity/gove... That link also doesn't say anything about long-term prospects. It does say it can't pay the lucrative amounts the private sector can, but that doesn't mean that the pay is 'unreasonable'. In fact, most of that article is about a mismatch of cultural fit, and has very little to do with remuneration. And seriously, given how much of the hot talent in SV jumps around on a yearly basis depending on who provides the biggest bucks, does anyone really believe that "long-term career prospects" are going to appeal to those hackers? Do talented programmers really sign on to Apple because "I know I'll be a senior manager there in 20 years? 'Job security' is not the same as 'long term prospects'.
digler999 10y ago
> long term career prospects I doubt many young people even want "long term" prospects anymore.
- Karnickel 10y ago
  I can't speak for any other country, obviously culture plays a role, but in Germany we just had an article in one of the top two news sites (and this is the much more reputable one of the two) [0] that says in a poll [1] 1/3rd of students said they'd like to become a "Beamter", which is a special status for life-term government employees who cannot be fired and have their own pension scheme. Job security was the number one concern overall (63% of said so). Income was only in fifth place. There was a big difference between the sexes, the share of women who wanted to work for the government was much higher (42% vs. 23% of men). But that's not all - most students prefer to work for very large companies, giants like Siemens, BMW etc. regularly top the ranking of places where students want to go to. Few want to go to small and medium companies, even though we have a lot of them. Even fewer want to work for a startup or even found one. I am certainly not critical of that attitude, I doubt that throughout history there ever was a big part of humanity that preferred insecurity and excitement and (often dubious) "chances" that actually depend on quite a bit of luck quite heavily over friends, family and a solid secure basis. That is if that was available of course, often people were forced into being more adventurous by circumstances. [0] (in German) http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsstart/jeder-dritte-student-will-beamter-werden-a-1109900.html http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsstart/jeder-dritte-stud... [1] (PDF) http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/EY-Studentenstudie-2016-Branchen/$FILE/EY-Studentenstudie-2016-Branchen.pdf http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/EY-Studentenstudie-...
  - vacri 10y ago
    A survey of the general population is not really appropriate for a hyper-niche demographic like talented hackers (the ones they want to hire). There's plenty of mooks out there who want to do the minimum work possible and unsurprising that a general poll would account for a lot of them. That's not to say that you are a mook if you want that, but that idea of a 'safe job' is not something that's particularly big in the hacker world.
Farahramman2016 10y ago
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ColnelKender 10y ago
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ethicalconsult 10y ago
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by kmonsen 10y ago

cassy500 10y ago

i strongly recommend globalhackteam34@gmail.com for all your hacking problems, last year he helped me spy on my husband when he was cheating of me, he served as a personal investigator to me by helping me spy on my husband's phone activities like facebook, email, whatsapp, calls, skype and others. am sure someone out there is looking for how to solve his relationship problems, contact him and am sure he will help you too. you can also call or text their number +19542719191

mejiacourtney39 10y ago
Hello im wondering if u could help me find things out
- trlane040 10y ago
  Do contact hyperhacktive1@gmail.com i assure you hes competent and reliable Regards
trlane040 10y ago
hyperhacktive1 @gmail .com is a professional hacker that specializes in exposing cheating spouse,and every other hacking related issues. he helps catch cheating spouse by hacking their communications like call, Facebook, text, emails, Skype and many more. i have used this service before and he did a very good job, he gave me every proof i needed to know that my fiancee was cheating. You can contact him on his email hyperhacktive1 @gmail .com to help you catch your cheating spouse, or for any other hacking related problems, he will definitely help you, he has helped a lot of people, contact him and figure out your relationship status. i wish you the best too.

alien3d 10y ago

that's why i hate story like Mr Robot. It give bad impression.

vacri 10y ago

Where does it say there are no long term career prospects? Or 'reasonable' compensation? It just says "they can find more lucrative deals". You seem to be projecting something onto the article that isn't there.

Karnickel 10y ago
Just before where you found that quote the text is a link to another article that talks about those things.
- vacri 10y ago
  You mean this? http://www.informationweek.com/government/cybersecurity/government-hiring-practices-hamper-cybersecurity-efforts/d/d-id/1252939?page_number=1 http://www.informationweek.com/government/cybersecurity/gove... That link also doesn't say anything about long-term prospects. It does say it can't pay the lucrative amounts the private sector can, but that doesn't mean that the pay is 'unreasonable'. In fact, most of that article is about a mismatch of cultural fit, and has very little to do with remuneration. And seriously, given how much of the hot talent in SV jumps around on a yearly basis depending on who provides the biggest bucks, does anyone really believe that "long-term career prospects" are going to appeal to those hackers? Do talented programmers really sign on to Apple because "I know I'll be a senior manager there in 20 years? 'Job security' is not the same as 'long term prospects'.

digler999 10y ago

> long term career prospects I doubt many young people even want "long term" prospects anymore.

Karnickel 10y ago
I can't speak for any other country, obviously culture plays a role, but in Germany we just had an article in one of the top two news sites (and this is the much more reputable one of the two) [0] that says in a poll [1] 1/3rd of students said they'd like to become a "Beamter", which is a special status for life-term government employees who cannot be fired and have their own pension scheme. Job security was the number one concern overall (63% of said so). Income was only in fifth place. There was a big difference between the sexes, the share of women who wanted to work for the government was much higher (42% vs. 23% of men). But that's not all - most students prefer to work for very large companies, giants like Siemens, BMW etc. regularly top the ranking of places where students want to go to. Few want to go to small and medium companies, even though we have a lot of them. Even fewer want to work for a startup or even found one. I am certainly not critical of that attitude, I doubt that throughout history there ever was a big part of humanity that preferred insecurity and excitement and (often dubious) "chances" that actually depend on quite a bit of luck quite heavily over friends, family and a solid secure basis. That is if that was available of course, often people were forced into being more adventurous by circumstances. [0] (in German) http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsstart/jeder-dritte-student-will-beamter-werden-a-1109900.html http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsstart/jeder-dritte-stud... [1] (PDF) http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/EY-Studentenstudie-2016-Branchen/$FILE/EY-Studentenstudie-2016-Branchen.pdf http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/EY-Studentenstudie-...
- vacri 10y ago
  A survey of the general population is not really appropriate for a hyper-niche demographic like talented hackers (the ones they want to hire). There's plenty of mooks out there who want to do the minimum work possible and unsurprising that a general poll would account for a lot of them. That's not to say that you are a mook if you want that, but that idea of a 'safe job' is not something that's particularly big in the hacker world.

Farahramman2016 10y ago

call (302) 365-0294 and Thank me later..for any such espionage, Hacking, private investigations, background check and fixing of bad credit basically anything !

ColnelKender 10y ago

for classified, certified,and highly professional hackers . call (302) 365-0294 or email ethicalconsult@icloud.com and Thank me later..handles grades,spying and investigations , email hacks anything! he helped me EXTRACT vital evidence from my EX wife's iPhone to Win the divorse case

ethicalconsult 10y ago

Reach us via ethicalconsult@icloud.com if you ever need an ethical hacker to remove a Fake Facebook page,profile or any social media account, mobile phones ,i-cloud recovery,any email hack,investigate a cheating spouse, results speak for us and the satisfaction of our client is our utmost priority !